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Cal cops: NO to Tesla

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  1. bisco

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    why does anyone care if cops don't want electric patrol cars?
     
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    Complete agreement, I just didn't feel like typing as much :)
     
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    Ok but scroll down in the article to see the Lightning in service. For some reason I can’t show the picture.
     
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    Most police departments that's adopting EVs are using the Mach-E.
     
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    The rest of the car, both sides, back, and top, are just target backstops. Better have body armor than to believe the engine block provides any protection.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I prefer to hire more officers than burn up our police budgets with higher cop car costs.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Fort Bragg bought EV Fords instead.
     
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    We have had police departments using Tesla’s for a number of years.
    Their choice was the Model Y.
    We (Minnesota) have a few fire departments that have also moved to electric fire engines.

    To my knowledge, most or all of these are trials to see how they work out.
    So far I have heard great reports from every Minnesota city that has tried them (Tesla or otherwise).
     
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    Then it is no to Toyotas with the new engines. Those are going to be smaller engine blocks that sit lower.

    It's been out longer than the Lightning. With the Police Explorer being the most popular ICE choice, many departments already have a relationship with the local dealer. Offering the PHEV for the PE won't be hard to do, and would ease for with BEV concerns.
     
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    Never mind that the "wisdom" of being behind the engine block is likely held over from the old LTD crown vic with its cast-iron Windsor block, and nobody felt like thinking about the change to smaller aluminum engines since then.
     
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    Ah, the land yachts with the iron innards....you did not need the engine block for protection. Any part of it would do...

    I had scrinched up my Chevy Vega, so my high school girlfriend's father lent us his 1969 Dodge Polara ...or was it Polaris??...one Saturday evening...boy, that was an experience...:love::love:.

    Apparently it was Polara and it got a whopping 10 mpg
     
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    If I were on a city council I would want to see the MSRP for a LEO car before I started signing checks.
    OUR city uses Dodges, whose Police packaged cars are $41-45k - but then we have Dodge dealerships (plural) available to work on them and we already have places for them to fuel up - both during and after the shift.

    You can get LEO packaged BEVs I suppose - but the numbers for them aren't available.

    @ "Fort Bragg" There's no such place.
    There's a "City of Fort Bragg" somewhere in California I suppose which is....ironic.
    See post #8 above.
    If there are BEVs on an Army base being used as LEO vehicles, I'm not sure I would use this as an example of either 'cost effectiveness'
    OR Heavy duty enough to withstand the rigors of metro policing.

    -just sayin.

    @ 20 year batteries:
    As is true with cars and political figures - it ain't the YEARS.....it's the mileage.
    Current tech is - what? 3,000 maybe 4,000 90% charge-discharge cycles in a lab environment?
    I use Bioenno and Dakota (LiFePO4) batteries and their warranties aren't close to 20 years - and they're not even CLOSE to being cost effective if you scale them up to BEV use.

    Math and Chemistry don't care about human feelings.
    We're 'getting there' with BEVs - but manufacturer warranties and taxpayer budgets still get a vote - as do labour unions and car manufacturers.....sometimes! :LOL:
     
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    The article is long to read, I understand that.
    Fort Bragg is certainly a place. I think it must be the same Bragg who was a confederate general who Fort Liberty used to be named after. Ford Lightning makes a perfect police vehicle. I love the step down windows with nice big mirrors, a safety feature without a computer.
     
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    could have swore you said Fort Lighting... :oops:
     
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    I probably did, but it’s too far back.
    Actually it is writing, and on the ipad it often puts the word in wrong, autospell or some contraption. So I guess I have to go back and see.
     
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