bZ4X - Start Your Impossible

Canadian announcement is here. Toyota Launches into Canada’s BEV Market with All-New 2023 Toyota bZ4X SUV | Toyota Canada

This includes Canadian prices and packages. Specifications are not available at this time.


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Delivery Dates?

 

if you can't buy one, 'start your impossible' is the perfect slogan

 

Toyota didn't simply add another motor to the other axle. They replaced the front motor with one of identical power to the rear motor. The AWD's combined power rating is 13hp more than the FWD's single motor. The draw from the battery will be nearly the same between the two.

 

And now you can start your build: Toyota bZ4X - Take Charge of the Future | Toyota.com

 

Summer of 2022.

 

The web link says 2023 ... & the order link (tried multiple zip codes) just landed on an existing inventory page

Than I tried my mom's SoCal zip code (very 1st deliveries going to be here) and I got this:

Limited inventory ...
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Here is where Toyota is currently using Hydrogen .. Have an extra 6 minutes of your day to take a sneak peak.
youtu.be/6-Sw-TmNB6k
translate.google.com says
You can see the video of "FC Module Utilization Case Study (North America)" screened at FC-EXPO 2022 Spring Exhibition.
You can see examples of customers using Toyota FC modules in North America.

 

So if Toyota is trying save weight and money it may make sense they may use one of the same DC-DC converters for one of their motors for their DC input. Seeing as how it is only 80 kW going out they would beef it up a little to bring in 100 kW (and of course derating). This is purely conjecture on my part, but looking at a teardown picture of old I'm seeing most of the hardware for recharging is pretty much located in the front. For the front wheel drive model with a 200+ kW DC-DC converter they wouldn't need much to make it accept 150 kW.

 

I used Build 2023 bZX4 at the Toyota website and requested a quote from a dealer.

Build Your Own Toyota | Toyota Configurator

Just received a call from the closest Toyota dealer. They said, they are not getting any bZX4 and they are not taking any orders. I don't know how much of what they said was true, but the reason was that the general manager of that particular dealer decided that the car is not built for the cold climate and not enough range in winter in our region. Haven't checked any other Toyota dealers, but that basically makes it impossible for me to get bZX4 and drive home. The second closest Toyota dealer is further away than the rated range of base model bZX4. And we have no DC fast charger between my house to there.

 

You mean a DC-DC converter between the battery and motor is used between the battery and DC charger? With the front motor being 'down sized' for the AWD model, the DC-DC converter was also down rated to match it. Which leaves the car no longer able to accept the DC charging rate of the FWD model.

Which means any 'low power' BEV could also be slower charging on fast DC, regardless of battery size.

That sounds more like a cover for the actual reason they won't get the car, and I think they would be up front if it was because of long expected delivery times from Toyota.

You do have limitations to BEV ownership there, but that apparently hasn't kept Nissan and Tesla from selling cars.

 

Nissan yes... Tesla, I don't know for sure. I am sure I can order it online and have it delivered to my home, but there is no Tesla retail or service shop in my state. As for the Nissan, they have been selling Leaf since it was released. The problem is that the closest Nissan dealer is again too far away for the base model to drive home.

I have checked, Mach-E, Kisa EV6, and Hyundai Ioniq 5, they are all listed on the dealers closest to me, although I don't know if they really have them in stock or not. Historically, I could not find the original Ioniq EV anywhere, but I think that vehicle was not produced in large numbers.

 

Well there is an inverter between the motor and the batteries. It may more of an ECU limit which may be doing double duty to minimize the chip issue and it is seeing limits put in place by Toyota on both the inverter and dc-dc converter. Don't know why you would want to go through the inverter for DC input but the ECU may be part of the inverter.

Yeah I'm not buying that. I think it has a lot to do with cost savings. Build it for speed or build it cheap. I personally don't see any differences in the front between the break down of the FWD and the AWD. The biggest difference is that it has a separate inverter for the back motor on the AWD.

 

The future is now: Toyota launches all-new bZ4X SUV battery-electric vehicle—Toyota USA newsroom

Toyota bZ4X—Take charge of the future | toyota.com

 

Is this just window dressing? As in how many of these will they actually make available for sale? I suspect this is more for publicity than actual sales volume and people in 2024 will be complaining about how they're still on a waiting list to buy a 2023.

 

It is strange that BEVs only come in shades of gray these days.

These days you can't buy any new Toyota by walking in to a dealer. You need to place an order and make a deposit, and you will get your vehicle after about six months. So, if you place a bZ4X order now, you should be able to get it by late 2022.

 

Forget it @Salamander_King. Stick with the Prius Prime. Or bite the bullet and get a Mach-E.

I saw a Mach-E on the freeway yesterday. I saw the Mustang emblem behind me, but it didn't look like a Mustang. After it passed me, I looked from the behind, but it looked like an SUV. It only later occurred to me that it was the Mustang Mach-E because it had carpool stickers. Man, they ruined the looks of this classic muscle car. LOL

 

EPA combined City Highway of 100 MPGE . . . . . over 20% less efficient than a Model Y . . . . less range, less charging infrastructure, less power .... why would anyone wish so many forms of 'less' on someone
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Anyone who prefers a well-handling muscle car over a boring crossover?