butt nice person ugly

unless you're writing.

 

Well, there has been much preaching.

 

So now that we all agree......they supposedly fixed most of the stuff everyone consistently bitched about with previous generations...and screwed up royally on the looks. A face job would be easy...like they did on the Gen III in 2012...however, I think we are stuck with butt-ugly nice person for a while unfortunately.

 

what if it sells? we'll never get what we want.

 

Don't care. If Toyota doesn't offer what "I" want, I buy from someone who does. I may own two Gen IIIs, but they are not the only vehicles I have and not the only eggs in the basket.

 

The Prius in general is not pretty, it's a technological marvel, practical, and it helps the environment. The Ford GT is pretty.

 

...and if I wasn't trying to pinch pennies for the house, retirement, college tuition, ect...I would own one. But my pennies can buy something that looks better than the GEN IV Prius and still make budget though.

 

I think I did use 680A. But it is not our place to design cars for Toyota unless you really work on their design team.

. The issue with tailfin monstrosity is how bizzar double beltline looks from some side viewing angles there's a good reason why noone use them. Well Saturn had them, but how well it sold?





Another merge for cyclo. We grow tired.

I am not sure it is easy. Some may others not. For example we pretty much stuck with head/taillight shape, and while they can soften edges on stamped parts they cannot alter shape drastically. I would really like to see 680A, because if it had these addressed taking it to production is much easier. The original article on redesign mentioned that 680A was more conservative and was intended to be used for PiP. If that's the case it could be only a year behind. Toyota had used different designs for US/non Corolla, so it wouldn't be shocking if they did it with Gen4. I suspect the 690A redesign was mostly superficial, so most parts should be bolt on.
I agree with posters which were saying that Gen4 styling flop is only understandable in Japanese context. For them it looks like a novelty, for us we saw other companies try it and it didn't stick. If you look most new cars are moving away from hard edges to more organic shapes. Toyota is just falling behind again. The hit the target which was there a few years ago.

 

Many are also moving toward LED lighting and long shapes... both of which gen-4 highlights.

 

yeah, but 50 people here won't buy it, what are they gonna do?

 

Can we, the regular users, do a merge after posting? Personally, I've not got the attention span or anticipation to know I'm going to be doing more than one quote, 'till after the deed. Could I merge 'em then, ie: do what you're doing. A quick tutorial?

 

That sums it up well for some of us. Notice how many vehicles all look the same? Heck, even Volt looks like a Civic now.

 

It seems like all the designs are getting more extreme in the last few years. A more "male" phase, lol. Someone posted over at cleanmpg, the latest from Scion:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52648

 

Wow! Is that ever ugly!

Its ugliness is only exceeded by its lack of functionality!

 

The 2016 Civic actually has a usable back seat .... for adults, unlike the new or old Volt. Civic will sell 25k+ copies every month here. gen4 Prius, 10 to 12k and Volt 2 or 3k a month. And Civic rated at 35 MPG combined which unfortunately for eco warriors conscience is more than enough for most consumers.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/CA/20150918/OEM04/150919825/AR/0/AR-150919825.jpg&MaxW=700&cci_ts=20150919000352

 

And how is it related to context aka "styling"?

learn to work around it, but stop posting back to back, last time going we are going 'there' with you about this. Simple. We don't care if you are or have been a mod elsewhere, that's how it is here, so...

I think it is more than 50 people. Usually less then 0.1% will be motivated to go out and motivate their opinion, most will just skip over and go to another car. Especially now with gas prices <$2.

None of the top selling cars in any segment has questionable styling

 

I'd argue it's the lack of functionality that contributes the most to the ugly. The plethora of "styling features" with no function or purpose, or a prominence way beyond it purpose.

 

I think the <lack of> proportions too. It is like looking at the pretty face through distortion mirror. Way too big wheels, disproportional size of the bumper to the rest of the car, etc. Basically more cowbells.

 

I wonder what causes this styling creep, and what would it take to bring it back. Maybe a stock market crash?