Burning 3.9qts every 1000 miles

Lol, maybe check the facts before you hit "post reply" ! The title of this post is:
Burning 3.9qts every 1000 miles
An engine doesn't just magically fix itself and stop burning oil at that rate... OP is lying to themselves and everyone else about the oil burning rate of late and here you are cheering on their lie?

The OP clearly states they are way, way beyond the threshold of burning 1 quart every 600 miles, yet we got 7.8 billion humans on the planet that like you think the way to address climate change is to pretend that facts don't matter and as long as they are cheerleaders for liars, like you, there will never be any consequences despite the fact climate change has already caused a trillion dollars in damages world-wide. So sick of this incredibly stupid and wrong headed BS that's entirely antithetical to what inspired the creation of the Prius in the first place!

 

Camper wrote in post #181:
Lol, maybe check the facts before you hit "post reply" ! The title of this post is:
Burning 3.9qts every 1000 miles


Easy, killer. So now I'm a cheerleader for liars. That's an interesting reach. The OP in post #174 clearly states:

At least in the last 4 months it seems to have fixed itself or at least to where it's not burning as much. It now goes through about 2 quarts every 3000 miles, which is a lot better than what it used to be where it was burning 3 quarts every thousand miles.

So, perhaps I actually read his post. He has no reason to lie. He was trying various things to make it better. Following your logic that he is untrustworthy, maybe he was lying about the 3.9? An engine that is a massive consumer of oil can easily improve. Sometimes as simple as a stuck ring becoming unstuck. My 2007, purchased with 143k miles, was eating a quart between 5k mile oil changes. Should I have installed a new engine? Now, a few years later at 220k miles and after many on time, decent quality oil changes, I have an insignificant change on the dipstick between oil changes. Maybe I'm lying also, who knows.

Not everyone buys these cars to save the world. Maybe he bought it for the mpg. Maybe he just loves the style. Perhaps many other people did the same. Don't have an aneurism because not everyone has your same beliefs. Maybe people use what they can afford? Can you give him a new car? Maybe all the people that truly want to be green can back up their talk and start walking? Maybe give him your car and you buy a bike or a few good sets of shoes?

What if someone started talking BS to you for damaging the environment because they're more green than you? Will you do their bidding? Maybe you can get a horse and wagon? Make your own clothes? Get rid of the cell phone? The computer? What about those pesky refrigerators? AC units? Heat pumps? Maybe even something as bad as a furnace, like the 10's of millions in cold areas that burn fuel oil for heat in cold weather? You go camping in the woods with your prius? Why is that? Is it really green? Isn't that damaging something? Maybe the exhaust is giving a squirrel cancer? Maybe you ran over a frog? There's all kinds of levels of green. Just because everyone doesn't match yours doesn't mean they're wrong.

 

Frequent oil changes can reduce oil consumption

the detergents in most quality brands of oil will remove residue which over time could fix a stuck ring,

No magic here

 

That's in the Owner's Manuals. Seemed really ballsy to me; my first thought: they should be obligated to put that in the Sales Brochures. Anyway, that's one "on the record" statement. On the other hand:

With third gen there was a Technical Service Bulletin for excessive oil consumption, and there the test criteria was one quart in 1100~1300 miles. If you met that criteria, AND had less than 60K miles (good luck with that...), you qualified for a complete engine overhaul, new pistons and rings.

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I'm in agreement with that for myself. My OCD would tie me in knots and my head would likely explode. But I'm not an SJW for others that don't. Just isn't any of my business. It's pretty much up to the state to rectify that and in Texas apparently, they don't even check for O2 spacers.

TBH, I have no idea how much veracity I should ascribe to the OP. The amount of oil he has been burning and especially the amount of times he has been supposedly "out of oil" as he has listed them just doesn't tally with reliability. I look at the entire thread as a troll and don't really care one way of the other. Meh.

 

Wow, 309,000....way to go little Toyota engine!

Last I tried, I'm, still, not able to walk on water so no judgey from me. Keep on keeping on, brother!

 

No it's not crazy at all.
IF you know and understand why the Toyota "spec" is what it is.
Hint: $$$$$

 

Didn't read the whole thread but I had a 92 Tercel that burned a quart every 300 miles. It was standard procedure for me to put in a quart after getting gas. Don't know what the cost for engine replacement was back in 2000 on an 8 year old Tercel but I chose to pour in a quart of the cheapest thickest 20w50 I could find.

There was a little drip but no giant puddle. A little grey smoke at startup but once warmed up, it drove like any Tercel that vibrates like crazy. Something obviously wrong with the engine. No black smoke that I could see.

I was getting 30 mpg and if you think about it, the car gets a "new set" of oil every month at 1200 miles intervals. I actually started pouring in used oil from the oil changes.

So I agree with what you are doing and I think there is an environmental aspect to replacing an your engine. There was an eco cost to fabricate the replacement engine. Even used, that engine could've gone to a vehicle that is completely inoperable. Is one more eco than the other? I don't know. I'd like to see some data before I fork over $1500 for the repair.

 

Of note, the 92 Tercel would've had a late variant of the 1.5L Toyota E engine, direct predecessor of the NZ in @Fatmatt86's Prius.

Maybe the apple didn't fall far from the tree?

 

Haha, nice connection there!

Of note, that Tercel had rock solid reliability. It never left me stranded over 200k oil burning miles. Always started up right away and AC blew ice cold even if it saps away a third of whatever is remaining of the 70? or so hp rating of the engine. While it may have eventually succumbed to death by oil sludge, it was taken out by an errant vehicle running a stop sign at somewhere north of 220k.

 

Totally irresponsible logic... A car with bad gas mileage that is within spec is not broken... A car that's burning huge amounts of motor oil is BROKEN and is causing 10 times the amount of air pollution the worst MPG vehicle on the road gets. You're not only coal rolling in a Prius but you've fouled your catalytic converter and are about to blow the flange gasket.

Here at PriusChat we help people fix their cars, not celebrate how extreme their denial is for driving one that would be taken off the road in most states if it were emissions tested.

 

If you changed the cat twice in five years and not mentioned theft you're obviously getting a warning light, as well as polluting on a massive scale but are smart enough to time your emissions inspection before the cat has been fouled... How many miles per catalytic converter replacements are you planning for/averaging?

 

Ever change the PCV valve? One that isn't working too well would (probably) eventually destroy the cat, although I think you would notice it first as oil consumption. Heck, at 313K miles it wouldn't surprise me if some of the cylinders are worn or scored, or if some of the rings are stuck.

 

Does one of the tests involve catching the oil that is dripping out of the tail pipe to see how much there is ??

You are just being irresponsible here......or your whole story is just BS.

 

Famous last words. LOL