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Chevy Bolt Sales In South Korea Nearly Match U.S. In May

 

This was the Gen 1 Leaf that I saw earlier in the day. I was sitting at a light and he started honking at me as he drove by. I remember seeing him at plug-in events and was told Nissan loves him.
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Depends on a lot of factors. However, the 2018s have no thermal management, so no worries there.

Thermal management additional costs has been one of those ‘general knowledge’ concepts that Nissan has been happy to promote while they weren’t using it.
In my mind, thermal management means the batteries last longer and/or can be less expensive on the cell level.
Nissan could just eat any additional cost as it will lower their warrantee cost down the line.
They may also simply pass along the full increased price, making the cars more profitable due to lower warrantee costs.

Basically, I don’t know the answer to your question, but we may get a hint when we see what the prices of the ‘19 Leafs are on the lots.

One other note, part of the reason the used prices are so low is the federal $7500 rebate. I expect used Leaf prices will go up as the rebates on new Nissan vehicles disappear.

 

i'm hoping for much more depreciation than just the tax credits, but will have to wait and see. i suspect a new model like the 18 leaf will be popular for awhile. something around 15k would suit me for my first foray into bev's, as a test car.

 

Sorry, I wasn't clear.
Any EV will depreciate as any car will. The rebates add depreciation on TOP of that normal depreciation.
It is part of the reason used Leafs can be found around 10k.

When the rebates go away, the depreciation won't be as much.
So your best bet is to buy a used EV just before the rebates run out.

 

My wife and I just traded in our 2015 Leaf for a Gen2 2018 Leaf. We mainly did it because we will literally make money on the deal all said and done. Our local power company is doing a $4,000 EV incentive, with an extra $3,000 if it's a Leaf. Plus we almost got back in trade in value what we paid for our 2015. Let me know what questions you guys have about the Gen2.

 

lots of california plug-ins being sold used in texas, california has bigger rebates. Not many leafs as people don't trust them in the heat.

 

Reports from plug-in america. I think it comes from texdot on registrations. Of course these could be people from california moving to texas with their plug-in, or sales from california. eBay is not a good source because many of these vehicles come off lease or are traded in, then they make it to other dealers. If a california dealer can't sell a used plug-in because a new one gets such high rebates, they can move it to a dealer in another state.

 

I’ve never seen a Prime around here and Gen IV I’m tied at about 3 wild spottings since launch. As odd as it sounds there are a lot of Gen I & II Prii most everywhere in this area, Gen III are uncommon, I see them about as often as the original Insight.

Gen I Volts are not common but I see them everyday, there are 3 in the parking lot here alone. I see them on my drive and on trips. Gen II are very rare here.

Leaf I see one once and a while, Tesla I’ve never seen one on the road but there is an owner that occasionally parks his here at work.
Only other time I have seen a Tesla is at the energy fair.

 

It looks like GM is saying Bolt EV production will increase 20%

GM says it is increasing Chevy Bolt EV production by ‘more than 20 percent’ | Electrek

This week I’ve seen 2 more Gen IVs so I guess they are getting more common even here
(But still very rare)

 

great...so 200 more a month? fantastic

 

From the little acorn...

 

It is far greater than zero.

 

i thought they were selling 2,000 a month in the u.s.?

edit: looking up some numbers, and reading a few different articles, it looks like demand needs to be fostered before production ramps up too much.

 

Nah, they need Bolts in non-carb states
75% plus of Bolt production is delivered to CA.

A lot of folks were complaining about the car being Cali only a full 6 months after launch

 

some articles are questioning bolts profit/loss, thusly need to sell in cali and not worth it outside carb.

 

Some did the same questioning for the Volt and Prius. Some of those used the faulty accounting of putting all the R&D costs on the models' first production run.

Putting the R&D costs aside, I don't think any of these models are priced lower than their actual production costs. If that were the case, GM could have easily priced the gen1 Volt at under $40k out the door.

The margins could be extremely tight, and the true value of selling these cars lies in the avoiding of CAFE and ZEV fines and the increase in dealer foot traffic from looky lous.

 

what can gm do to increase sales? one writer suggested an interior revamp.

 

How promoting it? I don't think I have ever seen any TV commercial for the Volt.