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Adaptive Cruise Control and Lane Keeping Assist Minimum Speeds?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by 155, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. jprates

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    Yeah, I got my pictures from the European Toyota's Media site, I have access to it, I know the pictures are legit.

    The problem is that Toyota Europe has an attitude all together oposite of that of Toyota USA. They don't help us here at anything. I keep asking for news and for details since I have my own owners site here in Portugal, and I keep getting nothing back. They like to keep everything under wraps till motor shows.

    The reception and care you folks had by Toyota Motor USA at Detroit is unthinkable for Toyota Europe. It's a real shame if you ask me. They should value dedicated online communities a lot more.

    Maybe you can send me that director's email address in a private message? I would bet he can tell me more about what is on this HUD feature than the Europe branch will ever... rats... :mad:
     
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    it is not that simple... toyota will launch 12 models this year, so they are focusing on one at a time... iq, avensis, mmc yaris, mmc rav4, rc auris, urban cruiser,prius, corola verso all shown before april, depending on market :).

    so product planners are taking it one at a time to keep their sanity...
     
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    you are making few assumptions that I would not make, yet.

    - Almost certain that Euro market will get pre-crash/lka/acc, just like new Avensis
    - hud will show navigation and speed, look at hud options - night vision is separate...
    - it will also have 40 GB NAVI as in Avensis.
     
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    C'mon "spwolf"... Toyota is launching a lot of models worldwide, and the USA is no different in that regard. And just look at how they treated the most dedicated members at Detroit...

    Never mind... we're heading completing off-topic here... let us just know if you know something we don't about the HUD. I'm sending an email to Toyota Europe today still asking for this.
     
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    I'm just interpreting the pictures available at Toyota Europe Media site, that I've shown above. Look at the inside pictures. The most equipped model has HUD, since it has the cluster for it, but the LKA button is missing from the driving wheel.

    There is the possibility that this car has moon roof and that may be the reason for the LKA to be missing. That much can happen, granted.

    OK, I can buy that, but then again you seem to know more than you are willing to say... can you elaborate a bit more please?

    The press kit for the Avensis mentions 10 GB HDD, not 40 GB. Are you saying they have increased the capacity after the document was released?
     
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    well navi button next to the hud button means navi on hud :)

    i doubt anyone will tell you much, as i said, they are focusing on one at a time... USA will get 3 new models this year, europe gets 12... it is not the same... also Toyota USA, in one country, sells 4x more prius's than total of europe combined. It is not that simple.
     
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    you are mistaking 2 things - HDD is 40 GB, 30 GB is for navi, 10 GB for music :).
     
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    btw, do you have nice closeup of steering wheel in Prius EU?
     
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    infiniti does not have the same system. at least according to infiniti website. It applies brakes.

    LKA applies steering wheel angle when it senses that you are not turning the wheel while car is going off the lines... if it senses you applying any kind of pressure to the wheel, it does not react. It works above 80kmh, it is intended for highway use where you could fall asleep with cruise control on, it is not there to try to make you better driver :). It also will not do u-turns for you, it gives few degrees of steering wheel angle.

    LDW on the other hand, works at lower speeds and tells you when you are going out of the lines.
     
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    Not that simple... or I would not be asking... let's see...

    1) HUD button - this one seems simple, it turns the HUD on or OFF
    2) NAVI button - why do we need this button? What is the difference between pressing this one and pressing the NAVI button on the radio??? Surely they can not do the same...
    3) What are those up and down arrows at the 3rd button for?
    4) The last one seems intuitive, it's the HUD projector light intensity IMO

    Will we get night vision? This is almost a must for me, since I saw it on the Crown I have visions of it at night LOL

    Ahhhhhh!!!! Thank you very much for clearing that one up!!!:D

    Just go to my site's post and click on the picture, it will open a very high res version, you have more than enough resolution to see the steering wheel there: Diferenças entre Prius 2010 Americano e Europeu - Prius-PT
     
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    oh, its simple... HUD turns on/off hud... NAVI changes HUD to NAVI HUD... up/down changes different modes for HUD.
     
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    i see ACC... it might mean that there will be two versions of the system - with LKA and without it... so markets like eastern europe can get pre-crash, acc, ldw even if they cant get LKA. In fact, i know there are such versions of Avensis, but our distributor did not want it because it is same price (which is already high).
     
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    errr... what does LDW stands for? :(
     
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    Lane Departure Warning, system that warns you when you are going off line and not applying pressure to the steering wheel...
     
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    The Japanese Estima Hybrid manual says adaprtive cruise control can be used 50km/h(31 mph) or above and LKA is 65km/h(40 mph) or above.

    Ken@Japan
     
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    which version of adaptive cruise control will work down to 0km/h? The one that's found in the Mark X.
     
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    it might be adjusted for different highway speeds (LKA)... in europe, two line highways start at 80 kmh... You cant use it on mountain roads obviously, since the system will not drive the car for you :). It is really meant for highway use where you can fall asleep...

    but LDW works in any case, thats why they are spearate.
     
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    What about night vision? Please, anyone knows if the european version will have night vision? It would be SO SO GREAT!!!
     
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    Not really your question, but I find my Garmin Nuvi (or any GPS) to be very helpful at night. It does not let me see the actual road any better, but it does show me curves in the road, names of upcoming streets before I'd be able to read the street signs, etc.
     
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    i doubt it, sorry... it would have been there on the Avensis... I think the problem is cost of technology, it is already expensive as it is.