A Perfect Storm of Doubt

EM,

I read this entire thread with interest.

For feedback, I am one of the many 2010 Prius owners that have had no problems with their cars since purchase. I did have one experience with the grabby reverse brakes when new. I rode the brakes down the driveway and by the time I got to the street the grabbiness was gone. I have not had this problem since.

There was a poll done several weeks ago where over 85% of the responders either loved their Prius or liked it a lot. Of course the number of responders was very small compared to the number of vehicles sold, so this may not be very good statistical data. Nonetheless, I do not know of many other first year upgrade vehicles that could garner an 85% approval level.

I hope this feedback helps with your decision process.

Dwight

 

Exactly. She needs attention.

 

well i guess my response to that would be your own words as follows:

"So anyway, I'm sorry if my "doubts" make you feel bad about your purchase, or YOU infer that I think you should, but that's not the point of my post."

how is this constructive or in any way informative? its baiting. no one here feels bad about anything, nor are would many of us be apologetic about flaws in the design of our 22k+ investments. weve all filed complaints here. but the underlying understanding is that we know what we're talking about because we've actually experienced it, or at the very least read official statements from toyota informing us that our 2010's are NOT part of a recall...aka: there was a design flaw that had zero zilch nada to do with our cars. criticism of quality control should be evidence enough that not only do you not want a prius, you don't want a toyota.

we'd happily agree with you and discuss if it weren't for your trolling. read your definition of what you think trolling is, and take another look at the thread. congrats, successful troll is successful.

 

The Electric Me, your last post is a little more reasonable.

Keep in mind that first impressions are…well first impressions. When you started out with the “storm clouds are brewing” type stuff - based on hearsay- what do you expect?

So now that you’ve heard both (several) sides, my suggestion…sell that old car of yours… and buy a Prius. Just do it.

Somehow I think you’ll be a good contributor here and better yet…there will be no storm clouds.

 

I agree.

And I don't fear or regret buying a 2010 Prius one bit.

I've seen the brake issue but it's minor. After reading about it and then experiencing it firsthand, it was no surprise when it happened underbraking over three manhole covers. It only happens when braking on rough pavement or pavement transitions. This is easily remedied by allowing a little more stopping distance and braking before the bumps.

Anyway, go buy Prius already! And start enjoying driving by gas stations! :car:

 

I have been an active member of this forum in recent months. I am convinced that Electric Me is not a troll. He has made quite a few usefull and informative posts.

If you are an expert on trolls, you should know not to "feed" a troll by arguing and derailing a thread. Let it go!

As far as what to do, Electric Me, if you are going to make it until spring, you should try to make it until Toyota announces changes/prices for the 2011 models. They might make some small changes in response to feedback. If not, maybe you can get somewhat of a deal on a 2010 as the 2011's are about to arrive.

 

Really? Name one where she/he has provided useful information. Not trying to be belligerent, just would love to know what posts you are referring to?

If not a troll, then one hellava insecure person who needs some kind of attention and reassurance (by her/his own admission).

As I have said multiple times - If she/he is, in fact, seeking information regarding issues on the G3, she/he need only read what's already been posted - many, many times over - on the very issues/questions she/he (supposedly) seeks answers to. It's right there for the taking. It's so simple that even a caveman could do it?! That is, if she/he is really seeking the truth, rather than simply trolling, or seeking affirmation and attention to satisfy some kind of personal insecurities.

At the very least, it's all rather bizzzzzar.

 

[QOUTE=RoyRose]If you are an expert on trolls, you should know not to "feed" a troll by arguing and derailing a thread. Let it go![/QUOTE]

what? And take away one of the few pleasures I have while I'm at work? Never!

 

what i found interesting was that you are doubting some minor issues for Prius while neglecting major reliability issues that Jetta TDI has, which you claim it is your alternative. On Page 6 you have informative post about TDI issues (and many of them are applicable to other TDI's, not just VW's), which are far more complex and expensive than cargo net issue with Prius, yet you continue on your quest ;-). Let me see - Cargo Net vs Multiple Engine issues...

Forget even those serious issues.. thinking about Jetta being without niggles? Did you even went over Jetta forums to check on the issues? If you were serious about decision making between Jetta and Prius, and went over the forums, you would have already bought the Prius :cheer2:

 

Let me discuss the Prius brakes a little bit.

But, first, it should be noted that this is my 3rd Prius (one of each gen). The brakes are a little bit different than a conventional car because they blend regenerative braking and conventional disc brakes.

My Gen III is 6+ months old and I've experienced the grabbiness 2 times...not a big deal at all. But now an important braking story.

On Christmas I was headed to a friend's house on the freeway, going ~62 mph, with cruise control in the right lane. I was 8-10 car lengths behind another care for a couple of miles. The next sequence of events happened in 1-2 seconds. A large SUV was along side on the left and pulled ahead, signaled and moved into my lane a reasonable distance ahead of me. The car that was far ahead moved to the left a lane. The SUV suddenly stopped its merge into my lane and pulled back to the left...revealing a large van in my lane that was going ~ 5 mph with no brake lights and no hazard lights.

I was driving under the speed limit...I was leaving ample space for safety, or so I thought. But the two other cars, unknowingly conspired to block my view of the hazard and both pulled away safely in the nick of time, trapping me behind an essentially stopped vehicle. All I could see in my mind was a replay of the dealer's demo of deploying an air bag that I saw a few months ago. Anyway, I'm going ~90 ft/sec, I smashed the brake pedal, the ABS brakes fully engaged and I came to a stop 5-10 ft behind the van as it continued along at ~ 5mph.

Yeah, the Prius brakes work well.

3PriusMike

 

wow...sometimes its amazing the direction taken by a questionable interpretation of the written word. to accuse Electric Me of anything other than a concerned member of this forum is just as bad as actually being a troll. well, enough about that.

i think we can all agree that the floor mat thing is not a flawed design. its stupid people performing stupid tricks and that issue does not apply to the 2010 anyway.

as far as the braking goes. can we all agree that the issue only happens on transition from regen to friction braking? granted, the newer design employs much more regen braking. no longer does regen cut off at speeds below EIGHT MILES AN HOUR like the Gen 2's did. this is good. i much rather recapture as much power as i possibly can without damage to the inverter or the battery pack right??

so, this talk about brake hesitation possibly increasing stopping distance by an foot? like ok, fine, an extra foot. like so what? at single digit speeds, is it gonna be an issue?? there is nearly a ½ Gen 3 owners out there with millions of miles driven... lets start a list of who has been in an accident due to "brake failure"
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ok... lets not. (already started a few threads that no one wants to participate in... my ego is pretty bruised over that)

i am not going to dispute valid concerns by anyone here over any subject. each one of us must determine our own comfort level. granted this "drive a bigger car than anyone else and i wont get hurt in an accident" theory is not as popular as it once was, but wouldnt it be easier to not hit anyone??

but if there is a concern over an issue, be it not being able to reach over the center console to pick up the donut that slid off the passenger seat or what have you, its still a valid concern. ok, that is fine. this is not a perfect car!! never will be.

i wish i could experience this braking thing just to be there. its like a roller coaster ride. i can look at one and pretty guess what its gonna be like. and no, i dont have this goal of only riding one if its the best ride i have ever been on. one half as tall at half the speed is fine.

but, i strongly suspect i have experienced this braking issue. i slid sideways on a manhole cover in the middle of a roundabout and thought for sure i was going to hit the curb and cause $1500 in alignment repairs. at least i did for a fraction of a second, but i was unrealistic. i was going 10 mph and slid on a manhole cover that was 3 feet in diameter. sure accidents can be a matter of incehs, but i am not gonna lose sleep over inches or even 3 feet

 

Interesting how you keep going back to pushing VW's in multiple threads.

Das bias!

 

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There's a term for this: analytical paralysis.

 

Yup 2 gun threads have been pulled that i know of.
Kinda sux that we all don't fit the mold of those that got it / had it pulled.

 

You haven't seen my posts then.....