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A/C not so cold!

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Alexma, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. HTMLSpinnr

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    Wanted to add something to this - for those who have had the car a while, make sure your cabin air filter is maintained. I came to realize recently that I was well past the 20k mile mark (30k miles if you don't have a solar roof) to replace the filter. It should be cleaned at half that (10k miles for solar roof, 15k miles for std). Picked up a Wix replacement at my local O'Riley for $15-ish, 10 minutes to swap, and my A/C blew much harder. Driving home, the A/C has been far more effective - even in ECO mode - than it started the "summer" off. My kids in the back seat will thank me as well ;)
     
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    I too have been very disappointed with the cooling ability of my Prius's A/C. I have a 2007 that I bought used, and living in southwestern Oklahoma where the summer temps get over 110 degrees, it just isn't cutting it. Out of the 4 cars I've owned previously, this one has the weakest A/C I've ever experienced.:(

    I did replace the cabin air filter today though, literally took 3 minutes. Today the temperatures outside aren't really hot enough to test if it's making a difference, but I did notice with the fan on high it seems to blow harder than before.:thumb:
     
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    Assuming that everything is OK with the A/C system, this may simply be a difference between what you consider to be a comfortable temperature and where people are sitting in the car. I'm in So California too, and find that Eco mode in auto for A/C with temp set to 76-78 F works fine for me on hot summer days for front seat passengers. With vents pointed toward front seat passengers, this feels cooler than the the temperature setting and has minimal impact on fuel economy.

    When I drive in the same conditions, with back seat passengers, these settings are inadequate. For backs seaters to be comfortable, I have found it necessary to turn auto off and use a colder temperature setting with a higher fan speed. This difference has an immediate effect on reduced instantaneous MPG, measured with a Scangauge. Once the front and back cab is cooled to a comfortable temp, I switch back to the auto configuration, using a lower temperature setting that maintains reasonable comfort throughout the cab. In this last configuration in the So Cal summer, maintenance of a comfortable temp for back seat passengers means slightly cooler, than my ideal, for front seaters, regardless of how the vents are pointed or ventilation mode.
     
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    @Mstr2:

    You have a 2007 MY which is now approx 5 years old.

    You may be just down an .oz or two which can effect the cooling ability of your system.

    Also, the position of the heater valve in "cold" position may not be closed completely which can introduce "warm/hot" air into the air stream. This will reduce the cooling ability of your system.

    This may be the original cause of your system not cooling to your liking.

    Have you put a temp prob into the vents to get a reading at max cold doing at least 40mph?

    A respectable shop can take a look at the position of your valve and top off your system.

    To bad you are not in SoCal. There is a local shop that has been in business since the 80's and the owner is very honest.

    If the Prius was to be taken to his shop, it should be between $60-100(tops) for the service. The fluctuation is dependent on how much Freon is put in.

    If you take it to a shop, let us know the outcome.
     
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    The 2012 has great A/C compared to what I was used to in the 2004. Even so, the A/C in the '04 has been acceptable to me, being an Arizona native.:)

    We drove around in the '04 today during the heat of the day and the car did a great job keeping us cool while the outside temps were high 90's. I don't expect the A/C to chill beer, and don't like to be colder than 72. As long as the car can keep me comfortable then the A/C is ok.

    We all have different comfort zones so the OP and others complaining about weak A/C have valid points from their perspective. :)
     
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    You are right....from what I remember, the a/c would only cool down to 42 or 43 degrees.

    It's all better now.

    I'm sure the dealer just made an adjustment to the heater valve.

    As soon as the car was driven up, I could feel a difference in how cold the cabin got.

    And that was only on for a couple of minutes from the valet.
     
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    Just keep in mind that the mpg hit can be quite significant if you enjoy max cold and frequently make short trips.

    I played with the AC a bit and it reacts very much like my GenII in that the mpg hit is around 7-10mpg when the AC is initially engaged and it is much hotter outside than your desired AC setting. This mpg hit will stay fairly constant until the cabin cools sufficiently to reduce AC compressor energy usage. I observed this hit in Eco Mode. I'll test it in the other modes next week during my 47mile commute with temps in the 90s.
     
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    I have found that the A/C is not very effective at cooling if you are setting it to a temperature above 70F.

    The best way to use the A/C, I've found, is to set it to "LOW" and max fan speed until the cabin is sufficiently cooled. Once the cabin is cooled, keep it on "LOW" but reduce the fan speed to 50% of the maximum. When the A/C is used this way, it works acceptably.
     
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    I've found that turning on A/C while driving at highway speeds (constant 65mph) increases fuel consumption by 0.2 GPH or more (per ScanGauge, A/C set to 78F, outside was in the 80's or 90s). Even though it's belt-less, MG1 (engine-driven generator) is required to generate more power to turn the compressor.

    As for the ECO vs. Normal/Power argument, the only time I've ever had to turn off ECO for A/C purposes is when it's beyond 115˚F exterior and I have a car-full of people.
     
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    The only reason a system would be "down an oz or two" is if the system had a leak.

    I had our 2004 checked out when I had a similar complaint at around 123k miles (which in our case was a couple of years ago). The system was tested to have the same level of refrigerant as it shipped with, and honestly going through the service was a waste of money.

    Get it checked, but don't buy into the idea that every old system will be low. You'd probably get a bigger performance boost in just cleaning the condenser fins with a decent blast of water (it's the lower exterior radiator which can be seen under the bumper).
     
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    The A/C in my 2011 Prius gets plenty cold, even with Eco on. I throttle it back by turning up the temperature setting.

    My old clunker (a 2002 Ford Taurus) has the opposite problem - the control board is messed up so that if the A/C is turned on, it goes full cold regardless of the temperature setting. When it's just a little hot out, I have to choose between a little hot or really cold.

    So just be happy that you can throttle it back when you don't need it that much, and turn up the fan if it's not cool enough.
     
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