50MPG from Chevy Cruze Diesel

Toyota just surpassed the 10,000,000 mark for hybrid sales.

There have been a total of 34 models offered.

Availability has reached 90 different countries.

An affordable plug-in model is being rolled out in Japan, the United States, and Europe.

The timing is terrible... for diesel.

 

One of the things TDI owners would tout would be the distance between fill-ups on a trip. I used to drive them and I can tell you there was no way my bladder was going to hold out that long.

 

Yeah, and neither can you buy a direct bio-based replacement from a certain chain of stations in California like you can for gasol.....no, wait, I got that backwards

Coal rollers are idiots, but idiots aren't limited to driving diesels. It is likely the same of gasoline drivers have modified their cars to emit more pollution.

We get to see how ultra low sulfur gasoline effects gas prices this year.

With a lot less sulfur, I don't see how new diesel can smell like rotten eggs. Perhaps you were behind a gasser with a bad cat.

The regen cycles are for the DPF and LNT, not SCR with urea. Direct injected gasoline cars and some port injected ones would need an exhaust filter if we applied the particle emission limits to them. If the manufacturers feel lean burn is needed to meet future fuel economy limits, LNTs will also appear of gassers, the first Insight had one.

The city value would improve, but the highway wouldn't change much. The first Cruze diesel already made use of grill shutters for higher speeds. A diesel hybrid would likely cost too much for the segment.

 

*sigh!*........

We'll see how it sells.
Personally, small diesel cars in America continue to be a solution desperately seeking a problem to solve.
Almost as efficient as a hybrid.
Almost as clean as an ICE powered car.
Almost as reliable as an ICE powered car.
Almost as cheap as an ICE powered car.

It's "almost" a viable solution to a non-existent problem.
The funny thing is.....if you take off all of the stuff that makes a diesel almost as clean as an ICE powered car, they can actually be fairly reliable.....but the thing is that people never keep small passenger cars long enough or put enough miles on them to make the initial buy-in cost worth it.
Passenger cars just don't go to the junkyard because the motor breaks all that often.

The one brilliant thing about the VeeDubbaya kerfuffle is that most of the diesel fanboys have gone radio silent....leaving us with the dolts in ragged out 4x4 trucks and 20-year-old emissions grandfathered-in Mercedes to perpetuate the diesel stereotype.

 

You must have misread; the automatic is also 37 mpg combined (31 mpg is "city" mileage).

Cruze Diesel Sedan Sets 52-MPG Benchmark

 

Crude Oil is what make biggest revenue in many Countries...and People that have power will not stop from promoting this.....
Clean way is in hands of people that care less ...but profits....
.If you really have own one of this green diesel car's..you will be greatly disappointed on how much fuel really use and what it takes to repair this car's once they get old...not mention the cost of emission parts that will make you go nuts how they will charge to replace defective part....


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The report source could be wrong, but it doesn't change the point. 37 mpg is not worthy of celebration.

 

ULSD has been in use around 10 years now. If you got a rotten egg smell out of today's diesel, something was wrong. The new fuel smells better than gasoline.

 

when the ionique is available, the vdubbers will have a better place to go.

 

Spoken like someone still living in the year 2000.

Plug-In hybrids are CLEANER than diesel cars.

 

i know this has been debated to death, and it only matters to some people whether the epa puts their blessing on it or not.
if i have to live in the past to avoid diesels, so be it.

i prefer to see us moving toward renewables, and hybrids are a better bridge. they've already spawned phevs and some bevs.

 

The Greenercars.org site that Bob Wilson referenced in another thread today lists the diesel BMW X5 xDrive 35d as "greener" than the plug-in hybrid X5 xDrive 40e, and classifies the X5 35d as "Superior" in its vehicle category, while the X5 40e is classified as "Inferior".

2017 BMW X5 XDRIVE 35D | Greener Cars

2017 BMW X5 xDrive40e | Greener Cars

 

uh, 'progressive europe' where they ignored the cheating diesels for years?

 

Real mixed, heh? Not all gasolines are alike (some DI, with more soot, other Port Injected)...
Talking diesels...How do you think soot gets cleaned in the filters?...How much do you think a DPF costs?...

You are way off reality of diesels, as expected for anyone outsider Europe. But here we have a LOT of diesels, and their constant regenerations cycles (smoking blue/black), shaky start-ups, and horror stories of repairs, if repairing is enough to bring the car to a "as-new" emission state.

Some of us have been giving you information enough, if we keep being ignored, you'll lose credibility.

Just sharing (same engine): average fuel consumption of the equivalent car in Europe, Opel Astra
Dieselverbrauch: Opel - Astra - Spritmonitor.de
(5.83l/100km=40.3MPG=155gCO2/km)

 

Same old rhetoric as back in 2000.

 

Then when you update your wheels to Urea operated emission ....you will see that if you have proper to watch passive.....
Active....
Stationary Regen
Once you hit about 3.65 parts per million soot or triggered by Cat back pressure
You will see that this happens for 20-40 minute and heat is controlled from 1180-1400 Fahrenheit.....
And as emission components get older this cycle happen on a lot shorter bases....
So all improvements in today's diesel engines are waisted on regen cycle...
I can write really technical
Why?
How?
Let me just say that applied technology for near zero emission to Diesel Engines are robbing power efficiency and MPG
Once there is Another way to keep Cat at constant 1100 +/- Fahrenheit
And this type of emission Cat filters are at least 3-7 year's away.....


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not just fail emission standards, crash test standards too.

but why is there such a difference between its 6 speed & 9 speed trannies -
EPA Rates 2017 Chevrolet Cruze Diesel 37 MPG Combined

Either way - the combined epa on both trannies, is 37epa combined.
That's not too bad ... i guess. Sure, maintenance costs are higher but still, it's not too bad.
City driving 31epa. Again. Not TOO bad. I guess.
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