5000 mile maintenance, did they change your oil?

Had my 5k done today. No oil change, but I didn't expect it. Had them change that annoying reverse beep to only 1 beep.

 

Was just going to start another thread asking the same question when I found this one.
Went to the dealer today to have the constant backup beep changed to 1-beep mode, and the service guy mentioned in passing that when I take the car in at 5,000 they will rotate the tires and such, but only do the oil change every 10k. I was about to ask if that was the same for everyone, or just the local dealer being cheap, but it seems that 10k is the suggested oil change timeframe? That's fine with me, 5k for an oil change seemed a bit excessive for today's cars...

 

Crack open your Warranty and Maintenance Booklet, and all will be revealed.

Ultimately, it's up to you. The dealerships in the States, where free introductory maintenance is offered, are only obligated to do what's in the book. But nothings stopping you making adjustments, if you're willing to pay. Or DIY.

Personally, I'll stick with 6 months or 8000 km for oil change interval. It's actually what's spec'd in the Canadian booklet, for third gen at least. And the old saw that "Oh well, you're in the Great White North"? Yeah right: 90 percent of the Prius in Canada are within 200 km of the US border I'd wager. Our locale in particular is very balmy, mostly just rain in winters. And then there's Alaska, lol.

 

8000 km is only 5000 miles. In that distance how much is engine operation and how much is electric? If it is in the book, that's what has to be done to maintain the warranty, but Toyota should have put some engine operation parameter instead of total miles. They could have used engine hours or gallons/litres of gasoline used or an algorithm of engine operation when it's running...anything smart. But, Toyota didn't.

 

Actually your weather might be better for the car (especially the battery) than the hot California (or Arizona) sun. I've always parked my car inside the garage at home, but the summers in LA can get pretty hot, and I'm sure parking the car outside (at work, at the beach, wherever) on 100F days in the summer probably isn't the best for the battery.

(But of course down here in the States, we don't have to worry about crazed herds of moose (meese?) stampeding down our streets... )

 

One hitch: our garage is uninsulated: can turn into a cooker in summer. I leave a window open and a fan in it. Helps a bit. My biggest concern is the big battery, in those conditions.

 

In Canada?

 

Yeah, I can see where that may be cause for concern in the summer. I guess I'm lucky, I have a bonus room above the garage -- which means ironically, the garage is usually the coolest place in the summer (as the bonus room above takes the brunt of the heat, and the house has no A/C, just ceiling fans).

 

My prime is only at 4K miles and did the 1st fill up at 3800miles. I just got a call from my dealer for the maintenance due last week. Is this too early or should I wait until 5k?


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The service is time/distance based which ever comes first. It is 6 months or 5k for each of the first 4 services. The first and third do not involve an oil change and the second and fourth do. This is a simple rotation and basic maintenance. I have yet to schedule mine but it will happen in the next month just after the 6 month mark. After the free service though, I will likely roll back to just oil changes once a year. I only have put 10k+ on a car in a year twice in the 30 years I have owned cars. My 12 year old truck still doesn't have 40k miles on it, although our 9 year old Camry Hybrid had 56k.

 

Follow the schedule: first maintenance is at 5000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first.

 

If I drive only 5K per year. Do I still do oil change every 10K?

Thanks.

 

no, it's 12 months or 10,000 miles regular duty. whichever comes first. severe duty more often.

 

Am I suppose to go to the dealer for all maintenance in order to keep my Toyota extended service warranty valid?

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I follow the 5000 mile rule. New filter, new oil (Mobil 1). I do it myself. Walmart best price for the oil, Amazon for the filters and crush washers. Taking it to the dealer every 5000 miles is a ticket to get a sales pitch. I can change it myself in 20 minutes, tops. About $26.00. When you do it yourself you know what went in the crankcase when and how much. At a dealer you never know what they put in, or how much (or even if they did it at all). And how do you confirm that the filter was changed? Impossible! It's INSIDE the cover. And I never have an issue with a stripped drain plug, loose drain plug, over tightened oil filter, or over fill.

 

Prefaced with "I'm not a lawyer but...":

If I recall correctly, there's a law on the books in the 'States (hopefully in Canada too...), that car owners are entitled to DIY their routine maintenance. What helps immeasurably too, is to keep all receipts and an organized log.

This would apply to basic or optional warranties. I think...

 

Although, I had my new Prime for only 1 full month now, I already have 2500 miles on it. It won't be too long before it hits 5k service time. I purchased Toyota 0W20 oil and Toyota OEM oil filter for my previous Gen3 Prius, intending to do the oil and filter change myself, but ended up trading in that car for a new Prime before doing the change. So, I think I am going to ask the dealer to go ahead do the oil change with my oil and filter. Knowing that the EV ratio on my PRIME is now about 60%, if I keep this rate, it will actually be only 2k miles on ICE, though.

 

The so-called extended warranty is not a warranty, legally. It is an extended service contract, Vehicle Service Agreement, whatever you want to call it except a warranty. As a contract both parties are subject to the terms of the contract. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act does not apply to the VSA type contract, because they are not warranties. Read your extended service contract. Whatever it says, that's what you gott'a do in order to get them to pay for repairs. For the original factory warranty, you need to have work done at a Toyota dealership only in case of a warranty repair. You can have any repair shop do oil changes and other required maintenance and keep the paperwork to document the fact. Or, do the work yourself, keep receipts for oil & filters. All this will keep your (real) factory warranty valid. The Magnuson-Moss Act says that any supplies used (oil & filters, mainly) need to meet the required spec. That's easy with oil, just follow the label. Filters are different. The car makers do not publish the filter specs. Aftermarket filters (Fram, WIX, etc.) reverse engineer the OEM filters. They're usually just fine, the the one in a million failure would be mine.... The party responsible then for any damage would be the filter maker, not the car maker, and I don't want that fight. I'll buy OEM filters when I do my own oil changes within the warranty period.

I was at the dealer yesterday for the 10,000 mile service...oil & filter, tire rotation, check fluids, 487 point inspection. All prepaid, part of the car's purchase price (ain't nothin' free). After the end of these services I'll do the work myself.

 

I want to see the report of the inspection. LOL

 

With inspections it is very important to specify the right kind. Whereas M. Leisk prefers a single multi-point inspection, I believe that it is most proper to do multiple single-point inspections. If the difference does not seem obvious there is a 3 minute web video that explains the subtle but important distinctions. Click here for video.