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The more I find out the more it seems my CMax was the target; so similar in so many ways; especially on the EV side of the equation. Ford will need to respond with much great ICE efficiency and better battery positioning.

 

no doubt, toyota was concerned about losing sales to cmax.

 

I can't tell from these or the periscope video so does anyone know if the rear glass is dipped in the middle too to match the spoiler? Or is flat?

 

22 EV range is on the low side for me but I can live with it.
EV mode with the pedal to the metal - a must have, so nice.
My kids are grown, but I can't live with only 2 seats in the back.
Larger display is nice.
3.3KW on board charger is very nice.
Bottom line - I can not replace my 2012 PiP with this version.

 

i hear ya. i guess i'll have to drive one when the time comes, but it looks like a lot of compromises.

 

Bought my Prius nearly half a year ago, so I won't be getting the Prime anytime soon, but hope to get this one 5-6 years down the road. I could probably coax up to 30 miles of EV range in ideal conditions, which would cover most of my work commute, and most of everyone else as well. Prius Prime vs Volt is kind of hard to compare, the Prime has a vastly more efficient electric motor (120MPGe vs 95MPGe) and gas engine (52MPG vs 42MPG) than the Volt, so if you're concerned about environmental impact, it seems like a wash to me. What wins me over is that the Prime is the better choice if you like to take a lot of long-range road trips (which I do); I'll concede that the Volt is better as a pure commuter car for those that'll very rarely drive past it's 53 miles of EV range though.

Hopefully Toyota prices the Prius Prime right, if it's under $30K for the base model, tax incentives will knock another $4K off the price, making it a very attractive purchase over even the regular Prius.

 

Reflection or dip? Dip!

 

I think you're right. Here's another that might confirm it:

 

I will be in line for a Tesla Model 3 deposit next week for sure. The Bolt seems to be the only attempt at competing with the Model 3, and it's... not very attractive.

I'll be curious to see what the MSRP on the Prius Prime ends up being. If it's significantly below the old PIP, it may have a chance. If it's at or right near the Model 3 price, I don't see what would lead me to buy it over the Tesla. Granted the M3 specs won't be out till next week, but it's a sure bet that driving performance will far surpass the Prius. Biggest Prius advantage will be range between fill ups. Starting cost of the Tesla after tax credit is targeted at $27,500. If the Prime is $35k, that's... Not gonna end well for Toyota.

 

Really? I wouldn't consider a BEV with less than 750 miles of range. Probably closer to 1000 since the charge stations are so slow and so few and far between.

I'd buy an M3 if it were under $10k.

 

I have 17" on gen 3, prefer 15" on PP, even the wheel covers looks nice.

 

OK. You're the exception. Superchargers are already largely removing range concerns for Teslas on popular routes. In a few years range won't be a concern for 99% of trips. But enough Tesla derailing of this thread for me.

 

Dare I say it, the Prius Prime is a beautiful car.

 

So the spokesman says the lithium battery is 8 KW. With an all-electric range of 22 miles that would indicate 5kw usable. He also said that home charging will be the primary standard. That would be about 1 KW per hour - or ~ 5hrs to charge from empty. But wait - this is confusing... after all ... didn't Toyota already say;

Does this plugin mean that someone high up in Toyota finally changed their tune? or does it mean that someone has beat a path to Toyota's door for them to build plugins - only that this must have happened AFTER Toyota announced no one was?
Dear Toyota, remember to keep your words soft and sweet from now on ... because someday you may have to eat them

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The 2016 Volt is 106 MPGe.

 

Because they will lose just that one Sale?

 

I say the big news is that Prime will be available in all 50 states.

Sergio's, not wheelcovers, should be aluminum alloy wheels, no covers,

yes, it's a curve in the hatch glass for efficiency.

 

I have a feeling that the Prius Prime will use a pricing strategy similar to the Rav4 and its hybrid counterpart. Meaning the base model will be slightly higher than the mid-grade non-plug in Prius, so maybe $27-28k, and the higher end model will probably be in the low to mid $30k range.

Of course, Toyota might just price them higher to account for the plug-in tax credit. If it qualifies for around $4k on it, a lot more people should be able to claim that full amount. In which case I'm estimating $30-33k for the base, and $35-37k for the higher end trim.

But if it's the first pricing strategy scenario, I wonder if this will also cause the Prime to cannibalize Prius sales if they're really similar in price and mpg. Unless you need that 5th seat, of course. Only time will tell I guess.

 

That's really not true. First, official MSRP hasn't been given. Secondly, it's already been stated that initial production will go to current tesla owners and these units would not be base models. Third, Tesla has a consistent track record of late delivery.

Given all that, you could conceivably lease and return a Prime in the timeframe of waiting delivery of a $27.5k copy.

My 2 cents.

 

I won't spend longer than 8 minutes to gain 200 miles of range (3 minutes would be better - I can get 600 miles of range in my Prius in 3 minutes), and they have to be available in places far, far from any major interstate - like gas stations are.