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I still have the 5.1 DVD that came with my '06 Prius, I don't have the 6.1.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ilusnforc @ Apr 16 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]424236[/snapback]</div>

Did that not let you do the Nav override?

If it didn't, then the question would be "Does it have the same md5sum as for the 6.1 that works on the '04 and '05?"

I'm guessing you have the higher resolution display. Is that correct?

Dave M.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dmckinstry @ Apr 16 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]424306[/snapback]</div>

The '06+ Prius does not have the software override that the 4.2 and 5.1 DVD from the '04-'05 model Prius has. That's the reason I was asking if anyone has been able to successfully merge the software override with the new map data and make it all work on an '06+. I believe the '04-'05 Prius Navigation system is generation 4 and the '06+ has a generation 5 navigation system (higher resolution).

Refer to this post:
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=30559

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dmckinstry @ Feb 9 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]387674[/snapback]</div>

Um, who's Jesse?

I have a'06 with the 5.1 (and CoastalEtech stuff), and may wish to upgrade the NAV DVD.

Thx.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill-psi @ Apr 17 2007, 12:04 AM) [snapback]424464[/snapback]</div>

I have the 6.1 disc that I am trying to sell...disc was purchased from the dealer in Northern Virginia and never used because my "06 was totalled! Anyone interested please let me know. I will overnight the disc by UPS anywhere in the USA and take care of the shipping! Email me at [email protected]

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill-psi @ Apr 16 2007, 10:04 PM) [snapback]424464[/snapback]</div>

Jesse Wright of Metro Toyota in Cleveland, Ohio.

His phone is 1-877-885-2900.

You could probably also order through your local Toyota dealer, although it might cost a little more that way.

If you want to use the Nav Lockout override (Coastal's or screen dance), you'll have to follow instructions on this thread though.

Dave M.

 

Thanks.

According to this thread and CoastalEtech's page, the Lockpick 3 for '06 Prius is not affected (will continue to work) with the 6.1 update DVD.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ilusnforc @ Apr 16 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]424323[/snapback]</div>

As I remember, there were 2 different DVDs for version 5.1. One worked on lower resolution 04-05 Prii and the other worked on higher resolution 06 prii (and some very late 05s). There was an old post with pictures (long gone) verifying two different ver 5.1 DVDs. That would be consistent with your generation 4 and 5 nav systems. Anyway, we gave up the override function when we traded up to our 07. I am considering getting a new lockpick but would try hacking a DVD if there is a combination of loader and data that might work. However, it seems that when the loader was update to the higher res display, the override was removed. So unless there is a Toyota product with a high resolution display that still has the override, it seems the wire cut or a lockpick 3 are the only options. Anyway, there are some new features on the upgraded nav that I would miss if they didn't carry over using a hacked loader file. If there was ever a followup from naterprius or the others trying to do this for 06+ prius, could someone please point me to it?

 

I did see mention that the Hybrid Camry has a software override on a newer generation nav, however the Prius would not respond to it's KWI file... There was also mention of an Austrailian that could access the software override on an '06 Prius nav, but further information could not be found. I guess I was hoping something would be found so the '06+ could have a software override but it doesn't look promising. I guess the best solution at this time is to upgrade to the 6.1 DVD and use the Coastal override.

 

Is there anyone out there that can burn the proper DVD for me containing the latest data and still works with Coastal for my 2005? I'd be happy to provide proof of purchase of the latest DVD. I'm not looking to be a pirate in anyway...just want to update some badly out-of-date map data

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ken S @ Apr 19 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]426030[/snapback]</div>

Yes, I can. In fact, I just did that yesterday for someone. I combined the 6.1 data with the 4.2 LOADING.KWI file (so that it'd work with the coastal lockpick). I have a 2004 Prius in which the hybrid disc works just fine. I would charge you shipping & packaging ($5 for priority) + the disc ($4) + effort/labor ($20).

--Russ

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jrfaris @ Apr 18 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]425428[/snapback]</div>

As for version 6.1, there are at least 4 different DVDs for Toyota and Lexus cars with generation 2/3/4/5 navigation systems. These discs have part numbers under the DVD logo on the bottom, and "UXX" markings on the right. (See the picture.) Here are the discs I know of. (For North America)

U01 86271-33035 (gen 2/3) for Classic
U21 86271-33046 (gen 4) for 04 and 05
U31 86271-53021 (gen 5) for 06 and 07
U50 86271-41010 (gen?)

If you have ver. 6.1 DVDs with other part numbers in any Toyota or Lexus cars, please share the info. The U50 disc is found in 07 Avalon and I don't know the generation of this navigation system.

I am curious to know if these discs have the same DATA file. I know the loaders or other programs are different. If they all have the same data file, or with the same size and MD5 check sum, we can probably burn hybrid DVDs to work in any Toyota/Lexus cars from a single DVD. If you own 2 cars with different generation navs, this could be handy. (License issues aside...)

Tosh
04 Salsa Red

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ozt @ Apr 20 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]427082[/snapback]</div>

That's interesting, Tosh.

I just replaced the 5.1 DVD in my '06 Prius with the 6.1, and the 5.1 DVD has this info on the silkscreen:

U40 86271-47040 and also has 464210-0701.

 

everyone. I'm new here and have a new-to-me 2005 Prius. I joined the forum and it asked me which "option package" I'm using. I have no idea.

But it has Nav. And we've used it on its inaugural trip to Massachusetts for our 5-year-old's Spring Break (we took a week off).

I believe it has the 2005 navigation disk and there is an '06 available at the dealership. They say the new '07 version won't come out until December. I'm kind of surprised.

Everyone here seems to be getting the navigation disk from someone other than the dealer. Is this true? Is it possible to get an updated disk earlier? Is there a third party that sells the disk for less than dealer-price?

I noted that Boston, in the area of the "Big Dig" is really and profoundly incorrect on the navigation maps. The good thing is that the navigation system recovered nicely and did get me to where I needed to go. I should also mention that Bostonians can't really direct you because their surface roads are changing literally on a weekly basis around this project. We were trying to get to the New England Aquarium (recommended but expensive) and that's pretty much in the heart of the madness.

There is a traffic circle on Cape Cod that doesn't exist any more in reality, but the map has it. Points of Interest are pretty dated. My home address is flat wrong; the address that the navigation system says I'm at does not exist on my street (the street number is something like 20 houses off). I would love to know about third-party maps that may be more accurate but I'm not really sweating it, as the navigation system even with all of its quirks works well. These "complaints" are from someone in New England, others may find that their map is more accurate.

Has anyone driven into Canada with the Nav system? Does it work there? If you have one area loaded and you drive into another area on the map, does it work less well?

I should say that I'm still "learning my Prius." Mostly what I'm learning is wonderful.

 

From what I understand, NAVTEQ makes the Map software for the Toyota Prius. Refer to this post for a request to add or change data on the Maps:
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=3...p;hl=navigation

I have a 2006 Prius so the packages are different than your 2005, but I think you are correct that it's a package #9. I remember reading in the owners manual about the release of Map updates towards the end of each year. The Map software is more commonly referred to by it's version rather than release date: I believe most '04 and '05 Prii came with version 4.2, most '06 Prii came with version 5.1 (two variations of the 5.1 were released, one for the '04-'05 lower resolution screens and another for the newer '06-'07 higher resolution screens) and most '07 Prii came with todays current version 6.1 (also in two variations for the lower and higher resolution screens).

You must understand that data cannot be added to your navigation system by any means other than the updated NAVTEQ DVD (I believe it's only avaialble from Toyota) and the data from that software only has what they were able to program into it. They likely do not actually drive down the same streets you do, and they don't actually verify the exact postions of every house and business (I I read in the manual that it's programmed to know the address range for a particular block, but it evenly spaces the lots for each address so uneven width lots will not be accurate). Also, it has absolutely no way of knowing traffic conditions, stop signs or traffic lights, construction, closed streets, new roads or even moved roads. You can only hope that data will be included in the next release, but it's not guaranteed (if there is construction or heavy traffic on a frequently traveled route, sometimes it helps to program an "area to avoid" and the navigation will avoid that area when calculating the route).

I have programmed destinations outside of the currently selected "zone" (I think you have to change the "zone" to include the destination, search for and enter the destination, then it will calculate the route from your current position) but I haven't had any trouble with it crossing "zones" and it still shows all the map data from your current location.

The navigation system is somewhat complex and can take time to learn and get used to, but it can be enjoyable and a great commodity at times. You should review the "features" page of Toyota's website to see demonstrations including the DVD Navigation system (may not be 100% accurate as the demo is for '06-'07 models, but it should be similar). Enjoy!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ilusnforc @ Apr 28 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]431720[/snapback]</div>

It took me about an hour (total) of fiddling with the Navteq software to figure it out. It is definitely different from "Neverlost," which you can rent with any Hertz car and I find it very different from web-based turn-by-turn software, like Google and Mapquest maps. Google and Mapquest are eerily accurate and one might expect Navteq to be a little better than it is. If you are trying to locate a particular address, you may find yourself driving a good two minutes beyond the "You have arrived." voice prompt with Navteq (I certainly did out on the Cape).

Is Canada just one big zone? If I am sitting somewhere in Connecticut and wish to travel to Toronto or Montréal, do I have to switch to that zone to enter the address? (I think that is what you mean in your answer.)

The Prius I have, we purchased used and Certified from a Toyota dealer. It has a bit more miles on it than we would have preferred and we paid a bit more (about $800) than we wanted, but we did find out the GALS price for it, which is what a dealer would pay on the wholesale market (definitely a different figure than Blue Book—and you pretty much need to know someone in the industry to get access to those prices). My wife used to work for dealerships back when and she knows how to deal.

The car we purchased has all of the options available for the 2005 model year. Leather seats, the complete climate control package, navigation, keyless entry, satellite radio, multi-disc CD changer, everything. I like the car lots. And a real bonus: My wife can't find her way around to save her life and she grew up here. She has no sense of direction at all. The navigation system will come in very handy for her on many levels, as she manages a number of sales people who have different territories. Now, all she has to do is enter in the address on the Prius, and it will get her to within a block of her destination. No more Mapquesting her way around, with one eye on the road, the other on printed directions. We'll probably use both, actually, at first with Mapquest as a backup.

The latest version apparently came out last December. We plan to wait until next December and we may do the voo-doo illustrated here and create a hybrid DVD in order to retain the ability to disable lockouts while driving. I intend to participate in the forum and learn my car better.

 

My dad has run a few used car lots before so he has access to the Manheim Auto Auction websites to see what dealers actually paid for specific cars at recent auctions, which can be extremely valuable information in getting a good deal on a used car.

From what I can recall, yes, I think you change the "zone" first then select your destination and it will guide you from your current location (I also had the "gas station" POI icons on screen while driving in case any stops were needed and it was very accurate in providing that infomation despite not yet having reached the destined "zone"). I can understand your frustrations as I was trying to attend an event today and before leaving the house I was trying seach POI for a specific church for parking, not found... So I tried to manually enter the address, street not found... So I get back on the computer and Google it, sure enough it's right there! I go back to the Prius and manually find the exact intersection, I could see the street contained in the address drawn on the map however it was not labeled so I just had to manually align the crosshairs and go to it. I also enjoy having the convenience of a GPS as I used to frequently use Mapquest Mobile on my cell phone which could potentially be a dangerous combination if you're not careful.

Sounds like you found a great car that you'll both enjoy, good luck and welcome to PriusChat!

 

I just finished creating a 'hybrid' disk (6.1 data, with 4.2 loader) and it works great -- only made one brick before I got it right.
However, I have an issue with the new 6.1 disk (both the original and the hybrid have the problem). When entering an address, if I want to enter the city and choose "nearest 5 cities", it tells me "no city within 20 miles". :huh: What's up with that?!! I'm in a suburban area so there's plenty of cities near here. I didn't have this problem with the 4.2 disk.
Has anyone else encountered this?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sailfish11 @ May 3 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]435124[/snapback]</div>

Nope. Are you certain your region setting didn't get changed somehow? This is just a shot in the dark on my part.

Dave M.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dmckinstry @ May 3 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]435130[/snapback]</div>

That was it -- thanks! It took me a little while to figure out how to change my region (don't know why I've never done that before -- guess I need to get out more).

Anyway, I'm now tooling around with my brand new, fully functioning hybrid disk! Thanks to all who contributed to this thread!!!