2023 Toyota bZ4X EV (Reviews start on page 6)

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  1. hill

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    it wouldn't be the first time Toyota rolled out a production vehicle (ostensibly) for R&D.
    This shopping cart sized 50 mile range IQ EV comes to mind.
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    That is, it was either for R&D or Toyota simply didn't know their audience.
    There's a couple of other Toyota vehicles that come to mind in this same category. Dare we mention their hydrogen Mirai?
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    Hey now, they are actually selling(with massive subsidies) the Mirai. Say, maybe that is what has Toyota spooked on plug ins, the idea that the public might actually buy a car without an ICE without major government handouts.

    Toyota might have been looking forward to the Chinese market with the iQ EV. The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuling_Hongguang_Mini_EV is the top selling model. Being literally a tenth of the iQ EV's expected price does help.

    Hey look, some company is planning to bring the iQ EV back in China. Toyota iQ city car reborn as China-only Singulato iC3 EV | Autocar
     
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    Fun fact: LFP cells from CATL have a maximum continuous charge rate of 1C

    Total capacity is 72.8kWh
    Pack voltage is 355.2V
    Pack contains 96 A cells
    Capacity of each cell is 205Ah
    Voltage of each cell is 3.7V
     
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    The 3.7V would mean this is CATL's NCM cells.
     
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    That was my initial impression as well. Looking deeper at specs, I found 3.2V for LFP was nominal and operating was 3.7V
     
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    Has Toyota stated they are using CATL's LFP?
     
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    There's no benefit from opening that can of worms.
     
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    I'm taking that as a no, since Toyota's materials on the bZ4X only say Li-ion. Further more, there is less than 70 pounds difference between the FWD and AWD XL model. A CATL LFP pack of near the same capacity as a Panasonic NCM type pack would be 300 pounds heavier.
     
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