It doesn't have DC charging, but its onboard charger is faster than the Prius for Level 2 AC. People were hoping the new PP would get a faster charger to keep around the 2hr charge time That's how it was in the past for the US. All trims in Canada have the 6.6kW charger, and that is how it is in the US now.
Until their dedicated EV platform vehicles come out in 2028, I think there'll be a lot of part sharing amongst Prime and EV models. It shows with Toyota using the same 3.3 or 6.6kW OBC in the Prime vehicles and the bZ so far. That is to say, expect identical specifications while Toyota tries to maintain cost during this transition time.
The 4hr estimate seems to be based on charging the battery to a max capacity of 13.6kW with a 3.5kW charger off whatever comes out of a German outlet. Since the full capacity isn't used, the actual charge time will be shorter. More like 3 to 3.5 hours, assuming off the new battery being 55% larger than the old. It could be faster if North America gets the charger that is in the Rav4 Prime, but the news of a 3.5kW one for Germany likely means that isn't so.
2023 Toyota Prius Stylish, Affordable Package | WardsAuto If anyone's worried about lower mpg, they managed to achieve impressive numbers.
Maybe they're feeling guilty, due to having their thumb on the scale with the displayed mpg, lol. FWIW, our 2010 has never got close to the published mpg, though that's with significant short trips, and we have the 17" porker rims.
Mmm. I’d say Gen 4. TNGA hybrids seem to be beating their EPA numbers more easily than before. I found you had to work the Gen 3 to get those numbers (P&G regularly, dare I say, religiously) but they were much easier on the Gen 4 and stupidly easy on the Prime. I’m not that old and I find it expensive. The Camry just created those MSRP values just 5-6 years ago. Definitely the short trips. My best is 3.9L/100km but over a full tank, I think it was 4.0 or 4.1. Definitely had to work for it. Waaay easier on the Prime where I got 3.7L/100km on the highway (90-100km/h) in the summer. City driving was 3.5L/100km. Our Gen 4 with 17” tyres got about 4.5L/100km on the highway at 112km/h.
Well, I found beating the adjusted EPA for my gen2 easy, but may have only matched the original value. I made the statement base off the average user result on Fuelly. That seems closer to EPA combined than other models.
One important reason for faster L2 charging is because colder climates can run some EV heaters up to 7kw. That means if a meager 3 KW charger is installed - during cold/freezing weather EV preconditioning is ongoing, your battery is actually getting depleted. That really sucks. Don't EV purchasers want a warm-up cycle that can actually charge AND warm up driver & traction pack at the same time? Or hasn't anyone driven EV's really far south of sub freezing temps.
Hi -- can anyone tell me the size (height and width) of the hatchback opening on the 2023 Prius? -- and whether the bottom of the opening is at the same level as the cargo floor (like my 2010 was) ? thanks
Don't think anyone here made measurements for the first question. The answer for the second depends on exact equipment. The floor is lower than the bottom of the opening, but if the car has a spare tire or cargo tray, those sit under a raised deck that brings the floor up closer to the opening.
Never watched this reviewer before. At about the 1:40 mark (maybe?), he said he actually talked to one of the Toyota engineers and found out the extra power is partly the result of their drive motors going from 3 magnets to 6 magnets for more power and especially torque, in addition to them going to a 2.0L engine of course. Might be a reason they’re only producing 34K of them the 1st year, their motors are suddenly more expensive to make.
