2018 Requests

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  1. Bob Comer

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    I know I haven't turned it off, but it could have come that way. I'll have to check it.
     
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    That was in a Consumer Reports article. I agree either the feature isn't aggressive enough or it just doesn't read the road lines well. The streets and freeways in Southern California are crappy and have cracks that are sealed with black tar. Those cracks confuse my car every day but it reminds me I got a car with the safety systems so I'm happy. It can only help, but it is my least favorite of the safety features by far.

    Lane-Departure Warning & Lane-Keeping Assist - Consumer Reports
     
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    I read somewhere the V is getting axed at the end of its run. The Prius C just got a styling update again for 2018 and is expected to stay longer.
     
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    I have seen somebody guessing on the v getting axed, but nothing I would deem as official.
     
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    Car Play or some other way to use other navigation through the display. Toyota navigation is clunky and buggy. The voice commands are awful.

    I'd really like to see Entune revamped as a software update.... it's so far behind the car.
     
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    This story doesn't even mention Toyota at all.

    I know for a fact that my setting are 'on' and I've never felt it. Some people report that the LDW can 'bounce them between lane markers'. This is not my experience at all.

    Took my advanced into the dealer about the Pandora 'can't be started, please try again' and 'insufficient connectivity' messages. They said they called Toyota and their response was that my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge was not on the tested and approved list of phones.
    I take that to mean that the folks who created the entune app do not know how to program for the OS and are making hardware calls to functions. This has been a no-no since there have been operating systems and will cause apps to fail when even minor updates are installed. Like Bill Maher says: "I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true"
    I don't know why Toyota keeps us chained to the entune wagon, other than they might get a few pennies from the App authors every time they're used. It's not like everyone is going to wake up some day and say "Hey, this entune stuff is GREAT!" The battle is over, Carplay and Android Audio won. I and many others just wish Toyota would realize it.
     
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    2018 Camry is supposed to have an upgraded Entune, I believe.
     
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    Mark57 2021 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD

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    That's 100% BS. Look here.

    PS, I used AT&T as I didn't know your service provider.
     
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    I have Sprint. It's interesting that the Plus lists the audio, and other, services available, but the Premium and Advanced list the same services as 'unavailable'. I'm wondering what the firmware differences are that make the more expensive systems less capable?
     
  10. Lee Jay

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    Lane Departure Alert cannot do any such thing. Only Steering Assist can, and you can have LDA on and SA off at the same time.
     
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    But, as I stated earlier, I don't. They are both on. I'm enough of a tech guy to know how to read a screen.
     
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    Well, then it should work if it's seeing the lane lines. It just uses the power steering actuators so if the actuation was broken you wouldn't have power steering either. It definitely works in mine, it just isn't all that useful.
     
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    I may have felt a very slight tug one time, but it wasn't enough to even change direction. I wonder if it's a bug in the software.

    I checked my settings, and it was on.
     
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    I don't know. They all show available for AT&T so my question is what is Sprint doing different that it can't but that AT&T can.
     
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    Hmmm, I changed my phone to a S8, and everything changed. And Yes, ATT does show most thing connecting. Weird. Since they're all on LTE now.
     
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    I have the S6 edge and AT&T and noticed the same for my phone. It would do everything if I had bought the Plus, but almost nothing with the Advanced 11" JBL screen. Guess I will just use the phone to make phone calls and the audio to listen to a local FM station.
     
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    I didn't have time to read all 7 pages so I'll start with post 2. Be careful what you wish for. Toyota might replace the current native GPS with their Scout GPS, an Android Auto knock off that you install the app on your phone in order to get GPS on your screen. The headunit will no longer have the GPS app but solely rely on the Scout GPS app for mapping. Worst part is it's a subscription service. It's free for the first 3 years. After that you'll have to pay to enable GPS. That mean's after 3 years, your car will no longer have free GPS mapping. I saw this when I was looking at the 2018 Camry.
     
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    The 2018 Camry has the new Entune version. That mean Toyota has likely decided to move that direction. Hopefully they discounted the cost for the removed GPS functionality.
     
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    Read this very interesting article about the 2018 Camry GPS.

    Scout GPS on the lower trim levels but "Toyota Dynamic Navigation" on the higher trims. TDN sounds cool. Hope it works. Looks like this is Toyota Entune Ver 3.0. (long but a must read)

    Toyota’s Dynamic Navigation will start with the onboard database but, as a motorist starts driving, it will connect with Toyota Center, the maker’s digital communications center. That will result in constant updates, if and when needed, of a four square mile area around the vehicle.

    “It overlays the new road data when you drive,” Lobenstein said. When plugging in a destination, meanwhile, Dynamic Navigation will also tap into updates along your route.
     
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    Mark57 2021 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD

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    I have a Samsung S6 running Nougat 7.0 on AT&T. When my Prime Advanced arrives in October, I'll see how it goes. Now I'm wondering . . .