2013 Toyota Avalon Hybrid Full Test Review

I think that TM may have a solid hit on their hands ^^^. We all know that the fuel economy will be excellent but the styling and execution of the rest of the vehicle shock a lot of shoppers. TM takes over the large car segment with this iteration.

Now if they'd offer a Venza Hybrid......

 

New Highlander is coming later this year, it same platform as Venza and RX.... RX is coming early next year.

Both Highlander Hybrid and RX Hybrid will be built in NA. Toyota and suppliers have been announcing capacity expansions for those plants.

So i would think that the future Venza might end up having a hybrid too...

I just wonder if they are planing 2.5l Hybrid for Highlander as they are expanding their both factories by 100k units per year which would not make sense unless it had more sellable hybrid engine.

 

it is just more suitable engine... they might use 2.5l HSD for Highlander and have 3.5l for Lexus for instance.

But worldwide, they will increase their RX sales significantly by using 2.5l engine. They might offer them both.

Question is if it makes sense due to extra weight... it probably still does, if it makes sense for GS, I dont see why not for Highlander.

 

Upon telling my friend that I bought an Avalon, his reply was, "Isn't that a senior citizen car?"I'm 40 and was ready to buy a Camry Hybrid. After test driving both the 2013 Camry and Avalon Hybrids, I chose the Avalon. Quieter, better ride, more luxury interior, and a little more space made it worth the $5000 premium to me. At 40 mpg, I expect that it will serve us well as a commuter car and driving the family around on the weekends.While certainly not cheap, you get a spacious, luxurious sedan that betters the mileage per gallon of a sub-compact.

I think its weakness is in storage space - tiny glove compartment and small slots in driver/passenger doors. Also, the 6.1-inch LCD touch-screen in the XLE Touring and Premium is small compared to what many other manufacturers are using today. Everything else, though, I like so far.

BTW, I found that dealers will discount so don't listen to the dealer that says it is only possible to get $500 below MSRP. Test drive it before you judge.

 

20% and probably will raise... ES sells more and it is 25%

answer is yes... if you look at stats, it increases sales overall.

 

yeah... still, in other countries they have 2.7l Highlander/RX and they are dogs

 

I can't imagine that an RX with only 200 hp would be able to charge a premium over the 6 cylinder non-hybrid, they need at least a little more power.

From Sergiospl's previous post last year though
Toyota's World's Most Thermal Efficient Engine, Turbo Joining - Cars Bikes Trucks

A new more powerful and more thermally efficient 2.5L di hsd could be created with more power from both the ice and, dare I say it, improved lithium batteries from the alpha. There is also that even more efficient new 2L turbo ice that could find its way into a hybrid. Bets are on conservative Toyota sticking with the 450h set up, but there are other possibilities.

 

i can imagine how slow they are ... i would think they could use 220hp version for RX overseas, if they wanted... plenty powerful for our markets plus a lot better mpg, especially in the city.

 

probably drinks like an elephant compared to our diesels vans we use .

IS300h got pricing in Europe and it is pretty good, better than expected. Still a lot more than comparable 2.2 D4D, but they are probably making same money/margins on them, just like on Avalons. I am saying that for Rav4... it seems like it could be priced the same as 2.2 D4D 150hp with AT... which would be... excellent.

 

probably would get 30-40% better in a diesel around the town.... at least. If i drove it in my city on my routes, it would get over 15l/100km for sure .

Nobody buys petrols for anything larger than Corolla in Europe anymore.

This is why I cant wait for Rav4 HSD.

 

I test drove both a Camry Hybrid and an Avalon Hybrid last night. 30 minutes each city highway mix, and hands down the Avalon is a smoother, quieter car than the Camry. I owned a 2009 Camry and it was way below what I expected from Toyota, and Toyota heard, as the 2012 one I drove was so much better all around, but the Avalon, it is just so nice. Too bad its beyond my price range, but compared to my Fusion Hybrid, it is the equivalent car option wise, but a far better car overall.

Not only that, for only having 335 miles on it, I was able to get 40 MPG on it on my 30 minute drive. The Camry was a used one with 14K miles so it was broken in and easily obtained 41.7 MPG. The guy who traded in the Camry bought an Avalon Hybrid.

If you haven't driven one, don't knock it, drive it and see, it really is a very nice car!

 

camry only got 1.7 more than avalon? hard to believe, what is the weight difference?