2012 Prius v Information and Specs

You're not crazy. I heard that too.

BTW, does anybody know how much higher off the ground is the v compared to the Gen 3?

 

5.5 vs 5.7 so the difference is 0.2 inches.

 

Toyota Vehicles : Toyota Reveals Prius Family of Vehicles at the North American International Auto Show / Toyota

PHP:

2012 PRIUS v PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS 
 
Powertrain 1.8-liter four-cylinder engine with VVT-i 
Engine horsepower:  98 hp @ 5,200 rpm 
Engine torque:  105 lb-ft @ 4,000 rpm 
Electric motor:  Permanent magnet synchronous motor 
Electric motor power output:  80 hp/153 lb-ft torque 
Hybrid system net horsepower:  134 hp 
Emission rating:  SULEV/Tier 2 Bin 3 
 
Electronically controlled continuously variable transmission 
Drive System:  Front-wheel-drive 
Hybrid battery pack:  Nickel-metal hydride 
Estimated fuel economy:  42 mpg city/38 mpg hwy/ 40 mpg comb. 


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No 3rd row is an absolute fail in my book, why bother with an entire new body/hardware to have a new class of car that barely distinguishes itself from the standard prius?? Its still a hatchback and just has marginally more cargo room (for the couple times a year most folks might actually use it) with a huge MPG penalty (and apparently lower performance, still with Ni-MH battery) for ever day of the year you drive it. Sorry, but I guess I won't be looking at Toyota for my next vehicle as the Sienna is ginormous, but I still need seating for more than 5 a few times a month at least when carpooling kids around or what not.

 

Does anyone have the model number, like ZVW30 of current Gen3?
(Prius Plug-in is ZVW35.)
If anyone has an opportunity to visit the Detroit Show, I would like to ask to take a picture of the label.

Ken@Japan

 

???? Yes, and I still see no mention of a "suspension feature" within that presented data?.....

 

Are you looking for specific one from Detroit Auto Show? I think I took a pic from the prototype of Paradox.

 

I figure the 3rd row is the entire reason that anyone would buy this as opposed to a standard Prius - since it doesn't have that, maybe it'll jsut be cheaper? There has to be something different other than having a notch on the hatch, because that alone doesn't make it any more versatile (which is what the 'v' is supposed to stand for)?

 

no 3rd row is a let down but not unreasonable to expect.

perhaps there's a Prius m (for minivan) on the horizon?

 

Study the market. Prius drew a number of consumers by being incredibly practical in addition to delivering outstanding emissions & efficiency. SUV owners looking for an alternative wouldn't be caught dead in a minivan. Squishing back into a sedan with a tiny storage area in comparison is a turnoff. Prius is actually a bit too small for some anyway. Why not offer a wagon version, especially since that's a rapidly growing new market?

So what if it doesn't deliver 50 MPG? That expected 40 MPG is a huge improvement for those wanting to replace their guzzling SUV.

Of course, some of us saw the 1.8 liter engine as an opportunity to power a larger vehicle, since it really is more than what's needed for the 2010 Prius. Toyota planned ahead. Reuse like that is good for business. Consumers need choice. And heck, think about how the larger cargo area offers room for more battery.
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Any model numbers of the types are interested.
I heard the road testing prototype had 3 row seats.

Ken@Japan

 

Sorry, you were asking for Prius v label right? In my previous post, thought you were asking for PHV Prius label.

 

3rd row seating is a slippery slope that Toyota was wise to avoid, for this size vehicle. Weight would certainly have to go up to accommodate 7 passengers of who knows how much mass, and room for all of those peeps would be a compromise.
I do see the V as competition for the Mazda 5. I have driven the Mazda 5 and I like the concept, but the seating position for my 6'2 240lb frame is odd, I feel like I am being pushed to the outside of the vehicle, without enough room.
The Prius V will be great for those people who are used to more roomy vehicles.
More FE is wanted, always!

 

Higher ground clearance means higher Cd (less aerodynamic) as well.

 

Underwhelming. The size is ok and if this is the same price as a current Prius I'd consider it, but even then its mileage is quite appreciably worse, not to mention it will feel sluggish. 10 seconds 0-60 is ok, but 11.5 is really starting to feel a lot like 1992 to me.

That is assuming its price is the same. I imagine it will be higher, though.

I do not know this car just doesn't excite me at all. Perhaps it should have had the camry hybrid power train, which would have made it fast and yes hurt its mileage but then at least it would have been larger than a Prius and much more powerful. The only real drawback of the camry hybrid is its trunk is only big enough to hold half of a golf ball.

 

Makes you wonder how automakers can be proud of 30 MPG highway.

It's hard to believe that standards could have been lowered that much.

Of course, these are the same who pushed the mentality of needing faster 0-60... even though dropping the pedal to the floor almost never happens.
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Yeah... as a slight tangent, the other day I was looking up the specs of a Tahoe and had to laugh at the page title at 2011 Chevy Tahoe | Fuel-Efficient SUV | Chevrolet.com (emphasis mine). It's like putting lipstick on a pig.

They brag about 21 highway mpg. The city rating is 15 mpg. I guess it's "efficient" for a 5600 to ~6000 lb. battering ram of death.