2010 Prius information & pictures from Car & Driver

>I like the body sculpting

I like it if its for air flow efficency improvements, and not just for appearance

and joe's idea is interesting - solar cell powered EBH

 

Huh? the rear end is one of the best styling features. It has to stay.

A package # 6 today runs $28,350 with the Z1 addon. 14 months ago it was about $29500 before the ($2000) EcoBonus. It was never at anytime $26000.

 

Crap. Bigger, more powerful, and still burning gas. Swell. Maybe we can make an SUV out of it next.

 

Relax. They said it will be more efficient than the current.

Sounds like the plug-in hybrid in year 2010 will be just what you need.

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Side note - here in the Sf Bay area, we've got Tesla Motors talking about a $60k , 5-seater, coming in 'a couple years' to be built locally, an all-electric, 220 mile range, 3 ish hours to recharge ....

come on .... few people will buy that. I can't afford an all-electric, just for work, must find a place to plug in for the night car.

rant over.

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to the poster, unless 'they' find a way to recharge a battery in 5 or 10 minutes, some size of gas / diesel, quick and easy to fill-up cars will be around for the masses.

 

A few mpg don't impress me at this stage of the game. If they can make a larger, more powerful car "more efficient" then I'd imagine that they could have made the same size/power (or smaller and less powerful) care quite a bit *more* efficient. Why must EVERY model of every car get bigger with each generation?

I'd rather skip the hybrid part and go full-on EV. But then nobody asked me.

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What makes you say that? The same thing that made people say that few people would buy the Prius in the early years? Of course nobody would buy the $100k Roadster either... oops! Sold way more of those than they'd planned already!

I'm not sure what this means so can't/won't respond.

Until "they" (meaning the general population in this case) figure out that fast-charging is not needed for most driving, and that slow charging is astonishingly convenient... we may be stuck with liquid fuel for quite a while longer.... at *some* price. When "they" figure out that fast-charging has been around (and used extensively) for 15 years, I guess we'll continue to think that liquid fuel is better in all ways. When "they" figure out that fast charging stations are easier and cheaper to install than any gasoline or (gasp) Hydrogen station, I guess maybe EVs will finally be acceptable to the masses.

Why search for all the ways that EVs don't work? Way easier to concentrate on how they DO already work for many situations.

 

Ferarri make a range of cars few people will ever buy, should they stop making them?
Benz made the first car, few people bought it but he made it any way. Look what became of that!!

 

Excellent. Bigger, more powerful, more efficient and stills burns gas which will give it unlimited range. Something I need and no EV can match. Actually, I could do without the bigger, more powerful part but wouldn't eliminate it just because of it. Glad they didn't make it a full EV as it would eliminate it from a possible replacement for my current Prius if I ever decide to sell it.

 

Awesome !!!!

 

Am I reading this right? The 2010 will have two (2) Electric Motors.
Joe

 

Wow! I am loving the direction Toyota has gone with their design. I already know and I going to get the Gen III but now I have a pretty good idea of what it might look like. Danny, Thanks for posting those pics.

 

I'm looking for technology upgrades, not styling tweaks. The car is basically sound as is. I would like to see a new, more powerful battery, Li ion, for example, that offers a plug-in feature. Gas mileage upgrade to 60-75 mpg.

Styling and handling are adequate with the current car. If I want a sports car, I'll buy one. The Prius is not a sports car. Why waste your time trying to make it look like one.

 

The rear end is probably there for an aerodynamic reason. The Prius has a drag coefficient of .26. The Porsche 911 has a coefficient of .29. The car is shaped for minimum drag.

I suspect that everything is being pushed up in price right now because the price of oil is out of control. Especially fuel efficient cars like the Prius.

 

They're counting MG1 and MG2 each as motors. No change from the current model.

 

:jaw:Very Nice ! Makes for a awesome wallpaper on the computer screen ! :jaw:

 

Sounds good. I just hope this is released sooner rather than later next year.

My lease is up on my vehicle (not a Prius) at the end of April and I hope they come out before then. I plan on getting on the 2010 waiting list around January after seeing the official release. I really want a plug in but this will do for a few years until then.

 

ALL Toyota hybrids have at least two ( 2 ) electric motors. The current HH has three ( 3 ).

This as opposed to Honda which has one ( 1 ).

 

Currency, currency, currency, currency, currency..... catch the drift.

Toyota is losing ( relative term ) $2000 - $4000 worth of revenue ( probably their profit ) on every Prius shipped and sold here in the US. Now if you were in business in their place would you continue to sell your vehicles at a probable loss when they are in overdemand.

I'd expect a currency/cost/demand bump of about $1000 on the next MY Prius then another $1000 bump for the Gen3's

 

"Limited supplies of the nickel-metal hydride batteries have held back Prius production, but a new factory in Japan due to go on line in 2010 should break the logjam and create capacity for more hybrid models. Indeed, Toyota also plans to unveil another hybrid besides the Prius at the Detroit show in January.

The price will float above the current $22,160 base price but only modestly. Expect a loaded Prius to top out $1000 or so above the $29,692 for a fully loaded 2008 Prius. Hitting the road in 2010 will be Toyota’s first plug-in Prius. Customers want more drive time in pure electric mode, but the current Prius can’t deliver for various reasons, including battery longevity. The plug-in Prius will address that through the use of more-powerful lithium-ion batteries, but plans are to limit volume strictly, at least at first, to hundreds of units rather than thousands.

Like the lines for gas in the 1970s, the waiting list for the plug-in Prius is expected to be long."


I copied the above from the article. If they are only going to introduce hundreds at first, then they will probably not be available to very many areas. I wonder how much above list price those will be going for? There must be a dozen companies claiming they will have a plug in model in 2010.

 

I like the new look.

One feature I'm desperately looking for is all under the hood - the ability to P&G at speeds higher than 64 km/h. Even going up to 70 km/h will make a huge difference, enabling me to P&G on roads where the posted speed is 70 (many such roads in BC). I'm assuming it is nothing more than a software fix.