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2010 observations from the tech's standpoint

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by galaxee, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. spwolf

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    are they also acknowledging lack of power and bad mpg of 2nd gen Prius, by improving those two? Or? :cheer2:
     
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    So, my still unanswered question: If there's no power, how do you unlock the hatch to get to the battery?
     
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    I wouldn't put it that way.
    However, in talking with the chief engineer, he explained that the 1.8L engine can run at lower RPMs at higher speeds, thus reducing fuel usage, and also having the additional horsepower for when you need it.
    The entire engine/power train is 90% redesigned. It's lighter, tighter, and beltless (eliminates power loss). Also, smaller is not necessarily more efficient, if smaller has to work harder. So by going with the slightly larger engine, it is reducing the load. As one part of a three part power train, the engine is only part of the story. The rest is the way the engine works with MG1 and MG2, which has also been redesigned for further efficiency, reduction of emissions, and better MPG.
    They have kept the Atkinson cycle, as it is the most efficient ICE they have. Until we get PHEV, this looks like a good step forward.
     
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    john1701a Prius Guru

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    We'll hear a lot of improvements be spun as fixes. That just comes with the territory. Fortunately, it's becoming harder and most won't be as extreme as in the past.
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    There's probably an emergency release inside for the 2010, just like there is in the Iconic model.
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  6. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Under the rear bar (with the Toyota emblem). Basically, the same place as before but the unlock button isn't as wide and like Rick said, shifted to the left a bit

    That small button to the right is the lock button. Yes those of us with Gen 2s will need some relearning.

    How long is the delay on the Avensis? I swiped it and it took a while to lock.

    Probably the same as before - climbing into the cargo area and finding the emergency release.
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    I want to add a few:

    - Weight distribution is 60F:40R.
    - EGR and EHR (replacing thermo bottle system) add 1 to 2 Kg.
    - The cost of the hybrid system is reduced by 20%. This cost saving is used to make a better car overall. Hint: The base price may be the same as the Iconic model.