10 K Service, less than impressed! dealership misery!

WHy not a 50 AH LiFePO4 12v battery ?

 

Interesting. I have chosen not to use the multipurpose screen options. No music service, no internet messaging, no mapping apps, ect. No subscription for any service provided over the internet.
I do use the outdated SiriusXm music service. All I need.
Will I still get Software updates for my prius over the 'air' somehow.
Tell me more about the update you got. Was it just a multipurpose screen & apps update or do you believe it was a vehicle software update. What do you know about the update you recieved ?

 

All I know so far is that it won't let me back on the app. I have a call into support, waiting for an answer next week.

 

Are you sure it’s not AGM? FWIW: 5th Gen 12 volt battery is back in the hatch area.

 

Not an AGM in the Gen5 prius prime. It's the flood lead acid battery itemized in previous post. The Gen4's had the same lead acid in the engine compartment. Only difference is Gen 5 has a vent hose routing the H2 out of the passenger compartment. Same battery designation as the Gen4.

 

Every source I have says it's an AGM battery. A flooded cell would vent hydrogen gas into the passenger compartment.

 

Yes, it is a lead–acid battery. It is not an AGM battery.

It is exactly the same GS Yuasa lead–acid battery as in Gen 4.

Gen 5 has an exhaust hose connected to the battery to vent the hydrogen because the battery is in the trunk. Gen 4 does not have an exhaust hose connected because it is under the the hood.

Walmart now carries the Prius Prime battery—EverStart MAXX 140R | Page 2 | PriusChat

 

Second paragraph below the picture: Prius Frequently Asked Questions - TLS Motorworks .

"The Toyota Prius requires an AGM or Absorbed Glass Mat 12V battery. Since the Prius is a hybrid vehicle, it does not require the same amount of power from the 12V battery to start the vehicle like a traditional gasoline-powered vehicle. These vehicles do not have starters. The hybrid battery cranks the engine with the help of the transmission and an electric motor. The 12V battery is just in the vehicle to keep memory in the system and turn on the high voltage relay until the hybrid battery takes over. This is an advantage because the AGM 12V battery will wear better over time and last longer than a traditional 12V battery. Since this is a specialty battery, there are few aftermarket options, which results in a much higher price than your average 12V battery. "

 

That really old information from that Atlanta-suburb repair shop is for Gen 2 and Gen 3 Priuses if you look at the picture at your link.



Gen 4 and Gen 5 do not have an AGM battery. They have a lead–acid battery. All you have to do is to open your trunk and look at your battery.

 

Ok, that’s interesting. I made an assumption: battery in the hatch area (technically in the cabin) equals it’s got to be AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat). That was the rationale for AGM employment on Gen 2 and 3, at least that’s the consensus here, but maybe regulations changed.

 

And that's why the Gen 5 12-V lead–acid battery has an exhaust hose connected to it as shown in the picture I posted above.

 

The battery compartment is a vented compartment on the 5th generation which meets the requirements.

 

Gen 3 is AGM, and has vent tube. I’m guess something changed in the regs.

 

AGM batteries require some venting, too.

This is the Gen 4 battery. You can see a vent hole on each cell.



This is the Gen 5 battery. It has the same model number 345LN1-MF, but they put a lid over the cell vents so that the whole battery can be vented with a hose. And if you still think it is an AGM battery, read “add distilled water” on the label.

 

The 2006 HHR had a lead-acid with vent tube in the back. The gen2 had a vent tube.AGM and gel batteries are ventless in the same way stainless steel is stainless. They aren't likely to vent gases, but they can under the wrong circumstances. Not only is hydrogen in an enclosed space bad, but if you're really unlucky, the battery will release hydrogen sulfide, and it doesn't take much to kill you.

 

My dealer lied to me? So did a second dealer? And why would they charge over $600 for a regular lead-acid battery?
Even my local mechanic said it had to be an AGM battery.

 

$600 CDN for a dealership-installed battery sadly, is not that far off the mark.

strange though, maybe 2 years back I picked up a conventional lead acid for an older Corolla, through Canadian Tire, and their best option was around $165 CDN.

3rd Gen AGM through CT is currently in the low $300’s CDN IIRC.

 

it would be nice if someone could post proof from toyota. i too assumed inside the car meant agm. it would be helpful to know what has changed if it is flooded.

 

Not sure if you want to see this:

General PDP Template | Canadian Tire

^ $193 CDN

Looks like regular posts, is that the case for the gen 5 battery? Hopefully they got it right.

And here's a screen-grab from a video, someone showing location of 5th gen's 12 volt battery:

 

You want me to void my warranty?