wow, didn't know (gasoline powered) BMW 3-series cars have no dipstick starting ~2006

WOW!!! So if there's no dipstick, how are you supposed to know HOW MUCH oil to add???

I'd never buy a BMW anyway. I think they are the company that has refused, to this very day, to pay back wages to the people who were forced to work as slaves in their factories in WW II.

 

It sounds like the dipstick on the new BMW's has been relocated to the driver's seat!

Seriously, if BMW thinks I am too stupid to check my own oil, then they don't need my business.

 

BMW lost another potential customer. No dip stick??? What a joke. <_< <_<

 

Well, consider that you don't have a dip stick on a fuel tank,
either, but at least you can fill that until it's full and know
how much is in there. And you get a reasonably reliable [?!] level
sensor. I bet there's no external, physical way to tell "full" on
the BMW oil sump, though, and that alone says that they REALLY screwed
the pooch by foisting badly designed sensor systems onto paying
customers before thoroughly debugging them. How ... Microsoftian.
.
_H*

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ Jun 4 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]454934[/snapback]</div>

It must be a german thing because my wife's VW Beetle doesn't have a dipstick for the automatic transmission. I told her if she ever wants another VW they will either have to change that or she will have to get a stick shift.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(morpheusx @ Jun 4 2007, 06:43 PM) [snapback]455247[/snapback]</div>

My 2001 Mercedes ML 320 doesn't have one for the automatic transmission either. I was told it was sealed from the factory and that the transmission fluid was good for the life of the vehicle. Needless to say, I didn't buy that line and have had the transmission fluid changed once already.

 

I have one old car (70 MG) And I guess I will keep it forever just so I will have something to play with. I am sure the day is not far away when they will even eliminate the hood. That way they can charge everyone everytime anything is needed. "What about washer fluid,brake fluid.anti-freeze,ect," you say. "Oh, those all have sensors now", they say.

 

Why use a cheap and simple length of metal, when you can begin to approximate its accuracy with expensive and complex electronic circuitry...?

They don't call them idiot lights for nothing.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ Jun 4 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]455278[/snapback]</div>

no Prius has a dipstick for the "tranny" (PSD) either. Check it at the fill plug and then keep an eye open for leaks that's the procedure for checking it.

 

BMW auto trannys are sealed and the fluid is suppose to last a lifetime. :lol:

Recommended oil changes are at 15k miles or whenever the light comes on. If you are in the free maintenance period the dealer will not change it for you until the light comes on.

Welcome to the land of BMW.

 

2008 BMW - No gas gauge!


P.S. - Don't blame the engineers, this "improvement" had to sanctioned by the highest levels of BMW (mis)management.

 

BMW makes most of their profits off of service. I had 2 bimmers before the prius and both times I gave them back when the service ran out because after that it's just good old fashion gouging. Need the brakes done? (You will, BMW brakes wear out so fast) It'll cost $1000+. The service departments are their bread and butter. Maybe in 2010 they will just weld the whole hood down - LOL!

 

yea the prius hybrid transaxle assy doesnt have a dipstick, but at least you can measure it with the bolt on the side. My tacoma (2006) has no dipstick either, it uses ATF WS, but still i can measure it too

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FL_Prius_Driver @ Jun 30 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]470592[/snapback]</div>

It is really funny to read all this stone age nonsence

1) We are talking about NEW models. Someone's experience with second hand 15 years old beemers is null and void.
2) BMW service is free for the first 4 years or 50,000 miles BMW Ultimate Service
3) Service intervals are high (10,000 miles or more), by intelligent design.

And, finally: You don't need to add oil between services, in fact you shouldn't do it.

Regarding gas gauge

Must see

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HiLaker @ Jun 30 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]470766[/snapback]</div>

If you were such a BMW expert, you'd know it's BIMMER not BEEMER. Unless of course you are now referring to motorcycles?

1. Nobody was saying anything about old models.
2. Nobody was saying anything about the services not being covered by the maintenance pkg.
3. Nobody said anything about the oil having to be changed often or at low intervals.

The point was that it seems self defeating to take the dipstick away. Especially when the new gadget has flaws. Even I can see this and I don't change my own oil.

Thanks.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sassy Pamela @ Jun 30 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]470792[/snapback]</div>

HiLaker is from Geneva. He spells the Swiss way when he writes.