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Why Prius owners drive like that

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. bwilson4web

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    "My car is a 2001 Ford Mustang – six cylinders with a 5-speed standard shift. It was my middle-aged-crazymobile when I bought it, though it's really not too crazy, . . .

    I used to get irked with Toyota Prius owners. These guys are notorious for driving below posted speed limits, slowing to a stop far out from a stop sign or light, taking their sweet time when the light turns green or creeping through parking lots so silently that they startle pedestrians. Sure, with my Mustang averaging about 15 MPG in city driving, I envied Prius owners' claims of 50 MPG and better, but really . . . do they have to be so pokey while doing it?
    Well, now that we have a Toyota Prius in our household, I know that the answer is . . . Yes!
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    Source: Why Prius owners drive like that - Houston Chronicle

    I asked Mr. Google for some Prius news and up pops this 'coming of age' Prius story. Many times we've read similar, personal experiences in various Prius forums but the automotive press remained just as critical of Prius drivers as this author was pre-Prius . . . but now he gets it.

    This article is not announcing "the Age of Aquarius" for the Prius. Rather, this is just another shift, a steering away from the 'pedal to the metal' nonsense that dominates traditional automotive stories. Given the Prius has become a leading seller in California even without the HOV pass, it may be as simple as the press beginning to notice their audience, their crowd, is moving in a new direction and they are trying to get to the front. Or of course, it might just be this writer owning their own Prius and paying their own gas bills.

    In many respects, the automotive press reads like how I've driven in a business trip, rental car. 'Not my car and not my gas' so the goal becomes to get the business trip over as soon as possible with as much comfort as possible and back home. That is the attitude of many automotive writers in a 'loaner' car, the subject of their articles.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Hi Bob - This guy is a very sensible local tech columnist. He and some other geeks also host a weekly call in radio show on public radio, talking about tech news and trying to solve people's computer problems. You may want to see this other thread on the same subject:
    Here's Why Prius Drivers Drive Like That | PriusChat
     
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    I guess those pokey, snails pace Prius drivers don't live around here. I've been passed many times on local and interstate roads by a Prius. In fact, most times I notice it's people in other vehicles driving that way. Admittedly, the red light coasting I am guilty of, but why would I race up to a red light anyway? I do that same thing on my motorcycle and did it when I drove a manual trans as well. I do enjoy when people get passed by me, then they suddenly speed up and jump right back in front of me and slow back down so we keep playing the game of passing each other.
     
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    Thanks!
    It is easy to miss what could be a Prius generic subject embedded in a model specific forum. I'll have to see if he has a podcast, something to replace Click and Clak.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Well I drive like this. Why are people in such a rush to get to a red light?
     
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    Oh yeah, so what do you do in that situation?

    Something is broken in that statement, LOL.

    Uh, welcome to the club, I guess...

    Whoa, I actually like this one. Except: "forced" to attend? By whom? A judge? :ROFLMAO:

    There you go, back in form.
     
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    I drove like this:
    • 1972-76 with 1966 VWmicrobus - the first car that I could use MPG to identify when maintenance was needed.
    • 1978-1985 with Plymouth Fury station wagon - MPG and engine noise would let me know the spark plugs needed to be replaced.
    • 1981-1987 with Chevette (the worst car ever owned) - MPG told me when the clutch had to be replaced, again.
    • 1986-1989 with used Datsun wagon - it just ran but I did replace the head and discovered someone had replaced it with a copper wire on the gasket.
    • 1991-2005 with Camry - it also just ran and we simply did our annual maintenance at the local shop. Again, MPG was a clue that something needed fixin'.
    • 2005 with NHW11 Prius - wow! The habits of a life-time paid huge dividends, 52 MPG.
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    I feel the same way. I'm going to rush to a red light so I can slam on my breaks?
    Everybody does it. People here (Phx area) complain about gas prices when they go up but they don't care about saving money by adjusting their driving habits a little.
    A lot of them own big trucks and SUV's here, they drive very fast and they speed up when the light is red just so they can slam on their brakes.
     
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    I'm always amused by the tailgaters who when I shift to the left lane, speed up, pass me, and then the brake lights come on a 100 yards or so to take a right turn as I sail past them. Racing to their grave.

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    Which reminds me...
    On Friday coming home from work there is an initial ~6 mile stretch of road going east that I take before I make a right heading south.
    I have pretty much all the lights timed except for one on this 6 mile stretch. A big older truck (I think it was a ford) was behind me right from the get go, passed me and started racing down this road like there was no tomorrow, passing cars with nasty exhaust smoke coming from the tailpipe (no joke).
    He missed almost every light and at the end of the 6 mile stretch I caught up to him.
    He was waiting to turn left at the light and I made my right. :D No time saved at all.
     
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    Count me in this club now too. I love semi trucks now too. ;)

    Living in the SE Michigan area between Detroit and Toledo (Jeep), the Chrysler semi truck drivers take the most offense drafting off of them down the interstate. I actually had a couple show me that I was number #1 with their middle finger. :D
     
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    This happens all the time and I LMAO at every one of those fools. I want a bumper snicker that says
    Only a moron races......to a red light.
     
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    When people see my moded Prius, they want to race. I still get the standard 10.1 secs 0-60 as any other, but I have smoked a couple of pickup trucks and SUVs off the line. By the time they pass me, they're already above the legal speed limit. I'll let them get the ticket :cool:
     
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    I like to do it to open-pipe, Harleys. They just don't understand that instant, electric torque just sits there not making a sound . . . <grins>

    If I had a Tesla, I'd probably only get a fraction of the mileage during the summer . . . trollin' for motorcycle clubs.

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    Washington DC Metro area is very affluent and many of the drivers are using their vehicles to save time so they speed and rush to the red lights without thinking too much. Adding in the congested roadways of Washington DC (due to over development) and these type of drivers also become more aggressive drivers - weaving in and out of lanes and ignoring traffic rules/laws so they can shave a few seconds off their travel time regardless of what kind of safety hazard they pose or how extremely energy inefficient they are driving. With great wealth comes a sense of entitlement and the sense that one's time is very valuable commodity - traveling time/driving is viewed as an overhead that must be minimized. This also influences the wannabees who seek to become affluent and so take on the same behavour in hopes that it will make them more competitive and thereby richer and more powerful.
     
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    Closet pokey driver here. Got the privilege of choosing when I'm commuting. So - it's at 4:15am and 1:15pm - when traffic is ultra light. That way I'm not holding anyone up, and no one has to see me poking along. But when I do have to hit the road when it's likely that slowness will bug folks, then I do bump it up. Thank goodness for the tractor trailer rigs from the local grocery stores. Get behind them (yes, at a reasonable distance) and no one gets mad at you because they can see it's the truck in front of you. Good to have a plan.
    ;)
     
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    In defense of DC drivers:
    The Marines sent me to DC in 1973, just in time for the first oil crisis. I met my wife and first came to Huntsville AL in 1985. I did another stint in 1996-2000 and have a certain fondness for DC drivers of those eras who had to cope with too many cars and too few roads. Worse, we had the Summer tourists and year round, diplomats.

    DC was the first place were I could observe 'standing waves' in rush hour traffic. For no reason other than too many cars on the road at one time, traffic would come to a complete stop and then move forward again. Also, I remember four lanes going into three and traffic speeds increased to keep moving although distances between the cars shrunk . . . smoothly.

    In contrast, I came to Huntsville on an early trip and the car rental company would not sell me insurance when 4-5 inches of snow had arrived. Huh? As I drove into town, I was amused at how many 'good ol' boys' had managed to leave the Interstate for the ditch. But soon I learned local drivers do this all the time because they only have one way to accelerate regardless of weather and street traction . . . pedal-to-the-metal.

    Now I did notice my first and only incident of 'road rage' in Washington DC traffic . . . driving a Caravan. This was different from Huntsville boys filled with too much right-wing, talk radio. So I can sympathize that DC traffic may have taken a 'nasty' turn.

    In contrast, how do you stop Huntsville traffic? Four vehicles arrive at a four-way stop sign intersection at the same time and wait for someone else to move first.

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    I read this article back when it was posted on the chron. I was going to post a rebuttal to the effect that he might as well write an article about Asian drivers while he was at it since so many Prius drivers DO NOT drive as he alleges (locking up traffic, etc.) especially here in Houston, and that the underpinnings of the piece were clearly based on a stereotype. But as it were, I am banned from posting on the chron. And then it occured to me that the tabloidesque antics of the chron- as exemplified by this article and most others- are there for just such a purpose and I no longer have any interest in correcting the lies, false assertions or propaganda, even when they are veiled, however thinly.
     
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    I have been coasting to red lights for as long as I can remember -- certainly longer than my Prius ownership. I also do not particularly care for the sound of an ICE at high rpm, so I learned early on to drive a manual in a manner that also happens to maximize fuel economy.

    These skills and preferences immediately turned my Prius into a 60+ mpg car from the first spring I owned it, and this has not changed.