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What US dealers can change the 12V battery?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Toyonka, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. Toyonka

    Toyonka Junior Member

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    I've been amazed phoning Jiffy Lube, AutoZone and the like, that none can change the battery in a Prius. There are so many in LA! Where are they all getting their new batteries?

    I have a 2014 and the battery doesn't last a week of non use. I don't really want to change it myself.

    Thanks.
     
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    Pep Boys is one US retailer where you can type in your car specs and it'll show what's available. I've tried that a few times and there were a couple of options, a lower priced, conventional shaped AGM (by Bosch if I recall correctly), and an Optima Yellow Top.

    I'd be inclined to go with the Bosch (or whatever it is), the Optima claim to fame seems to be higher CCA, at the expense of Amp Hours, and apparently it's the latter that matters more with Prius.

    If a week of non-use is a regular event, it's not surprising a battery will die. We tend to have 1~3 days of non-use, and I basically keep it on a smart charger constantly. Ours is the Optima Yellow Top btw, but in light of what I mentioned above, I'll probably be trying something else next time around.

    "non use" is a bit of a misnomer: idle time is actually rough on a battery. There's a constant low level demand, and it's not being recharged.

    It's a walk in the park. Disconnect the negative cable first (the one that goes directly to the car body, and then follow your nose. A 10 mm wrench, and maybe a ratchet drive with 10 mm socket, and extension, you're set. Clean the cable clamps, the posts, and if possible precharge the new battery (with smart charger 3~4 amp range).

    I'm usually a stickler for torque values, but cable clamps on battery posts is something I've always just "winged". Use a small 10 mm wrench, and just firm them up, don't over-do. The values may be in the posted pdf above (around 5 foot/pounds, 48 inch/pounds?) but it's hard to get a torque wrench on, especially the clamps when it's in there.

    Deal with the positive post first, completely, THEN do the negative post. What you don't want to do, is provide a "shortcut" path for the electrons, between the two posts. Best to use a simple, compact wrench, and make sure it never bridges between the two posts, or touches any wire/metal that could act as a bridge.
     
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  4. Toyonka

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    You're right, Pep Boys do it, and they have the Bosch!
     
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    Someone here recently used them and got free install IIRC.
     
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    You have a problem other than weak batteries. The 12v battery should last a lot longer than one week without a charge. You have a short or other energy drain. Check the amp draw with the car off. It should only be a few milliamps.
     
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    I just searched the internet for Prius batteries, I think for Gen2. If one is wrong let me know.

    Toyota Battery Choices

    Optima YELLOWTOP® DS46B24R
    Model: DS46B24R
    Weight: 26 lb
    C20 Capacity: 38 Ah
    CCA: 450 Amp
    Width: 5.02 in
    Length: 9.27 in
    Height: 8.89 in


    Bosch Premium Performance Battery Group, Size 51
    Pep Boys
    td. 48 month free replace
    48 month battery
    440cca/530ca - reserve min = 75 - 45 ah battery is vented to outside of vehicle
    oe battery is agm only replace w/agm battery - w/smart key - s6 high performance agm - oe cca: 325 battery is vented to outside of vehicle
    oe battery is agm only replace w/agm battery - s6 high performance agm - w/o smart key. agm battery may req new toyota tray/clamp assy p/n 74440-47020 for installation - oe cca: 270


    Duracell Ultra Platinum AGM Battery for 2008 Toyota Prius L4 1.5L Smart Key 325CCA Car and Truck
    48 Month Free Replacement Warranty
    2x more cycle life than conventional batteries
    20X more vibration resistant than conventional batteries
    100% spill-proof and maintenance free AGM technology
    2008 Toyota Prius L4 1.5L Smart Key 325CCA Car and Truck platinum AGM battery


    Marathon AGM Toyota Prius Auxiliary Battery - Made in the USA
    Item #: SLA-9A51P
    BM Part #: SLA-9A51P
    Made In: U.S.A.
    Voltage: 12 Volt
    Capacity: 46 Ah
    Type: AGM
    Length: 9"
    Width: 4 3/4"
    Height: 7 3/4"
    Cold Cranking Amps: 325 CCA
    Shipping Weight: 46.00Lbs
    Warranty: 1 Year


    DEKA 9A51P Rock Auto
    Cold Crank Amperage (CCA) 325
    Crank Amperage (CA) 390
    Reserve Capacity Minutes 60
    Amp Hour (Ah) Capacity (20hr) 46
    Volts 12
    Group Size N/A
    Length 9-1/4"
    Width 5"
    Height 8-5/8"


    ODYSSEY Extreme Series Battery Model PC925MJT
    PC925MJT | ODYSSEY Batteries
    Year: 2008
    Make: Toyota
    Model: Prius
    Engine: 1.5 Liters - CID L4
    Model #: PC925MJT
    BCI #: S46B24R
    Install Notes: Installation requires battery to be placed on its back side to fit dimensionally


    EXIDE EDGE FLAT-PLATE AGM - CCA: 440; BCI Group : S46B2 Rock Auto

    Find a Battery

    Cold Crank Amperage (CCA) 440
    Crank Amperage 530
    Reserve Capacity (RC) at 25Amp 75
    Amp Hour (Ah) Capacity (20hr) 45
    Volts 12
    Group Size S46B24R
    Terminal Type A3
    Handle Yes
    Length 9 - 5/16 in.
    Width 4 - 15/16 in.
    Height 8 - 1/2 in.
     
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    Thanks guys. My car is currently at Pep Boys getting the new Bosch battery, oil change, and checking for energy drain.
     
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    get yourself a battery maintainer, and put a permanent pigtail on the battery.
     
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    I just recently bought a Bosch battery from Pep Boys and got free install. So far so good. It was fairly painless and the install was done well. They even managed to not loose the odo readings and radio presets.
     
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    If a battery is done by a professional there in no need to reset anything.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPGyV7T4SR0
     
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    I use that setup for retaining settings. OTOH, it's not the end of the world if you lose settings, which I do on purpose, say when looking at the brakes. The car tends to do some odd revving afterward, some recalibration I think. And of course trip meters, radio presets and so on are gone.

    Our last Honda had that pita radio code he mentioned. It's all good, IF you haven't lost the code. Stupid cargo cult nonsense.