hi all- quick tip on this whole NAV unlocking thing. so apparently there's a menu in there somewhere that has buttons for different regions. apparently if you select any region other than the region that your NAV DVD is specific for, it will lock up the whole NAV system. at this point all they can do is major parts replacement which is not covered by warranty. thousands of dollars. so if you find this screen, PLEASE do not try to select a different region! this has happened enough times that they are mentioning it in tech training classes, so they're aware of this in the shop. we found out from DH's team leader, who just got back from a HyCam class the other day. that said- good luck with finding that hack, guys still haven't heard anything on this end.
Maybe thats where they have hidden the nav lockout. Seriously I would like to know where this menu is. I havnt played around with the hidden menus much but was going to start to shortly to find the nav lockout. I want to stay away from this area if its going to lock things up.
no idea where the menu actually is, DH just described it to me from what his coworker told him. well if ya see it... now ya know.
Just a wild guess here. DVD drives have a setting for "region codes," which prevent, for example, playing a Japanese DVD in a US player. Perhaps this menu allows one to set a different geographic region into the DVD player, at which point it won't load the NAV DVD. Resetting the region might be impossible if the DVD (and software) won't load!
But DVD regions are for video files. Namely encoded VOB files. You can have data DVDs that are region free.
Yes, but that menu has some quirky buttons that it simply isn't good to touch. Another example is the "Loading" button. It'll try to load the DVD, which is already in the machine. It'll keep asking that, even if you remove the DVD and put it back in. The only way to cure that was to open the unit itself and press a hidden reset button. Actually the person who did that also removed and re-attached a ribbon cable so both may need to be done. Thanks for the heads up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Manksgloob @ Jun 4 2006, 12:36 PM) [snapback]265670[/snapback]</div> Yes, I know. Like I said, it was a wild guess. You never know how they built the Nav system, what components they used, and what odd bits are important. In any event, we can't do anything with the region code, whether that's what it is...or if it isn't.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brasche @ Jun 4 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]265679[/snapback]</div> Since the functionality (both destination entry AND dialing) IS available using voice commands on a 2006, the suit would be frivolous and would be a complete waste of time, effort and money. But then if you've got all three to spare, have at it!
Sort of reminds me of one of my company's pieces of equipment: Since all our electronics are made in the US, they are English based. We send enough stuff to French-Canada that French language is supported. You go in, flip an electronic switch, reboot the system and oui oui you are speaking the French. This is designed to be a one-way street; there is no such menu option for changing it back. Working in Education Services, we get the occasional jokers who want to see if they can still use the system if it's in French so they change it. We have to completely wipe the EEPROM and reflash the firmware to get it back.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brasche @ Jun 4 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]265679[/snapback]</div> I'm in - Where do I send my check!
With the Load button push totally powering down the ECU and hitting a reset button on the circuit board fixes it. There is a Post on the subject around here somewhere. It is a bit hard and obscure involving taking the cover off the ECU to find the reset button as I remember. I guess they could have different ECUs for each "region" but it would be easier to have a software switch to do it. FWIW
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brasche @ Jun 4 2006, 03:09 PM) [snapback]265679[/snapback]</div> Absolutely! No one should have to pay for a parts replacement for simply trying to use what is already ours and paid for. Is there a way to have us all put our names, addresses, and VIN codes (or something else that proves we all have Priuses) and send a collective email to Toyota, and copy it to all of our personal dealers...to show to their owners. If anyone knows how to set that up, I will be the first to sign on. I will also be more than happy to do the work if someone can walk me through the process. BUT BRAVO TO GALAXEE for letting us in on this tip. I will post it on the main "Hack Service Menus's for '06" email. Just to note, when I spoke to the programmer who divulged there was indeed a way to override but refused to tell me how...he also said he would not suggest any hardware mod attempts (even though I know they've been done many times successfully) as "you could wind up with the Austrailian NAV database...and then you're really f...ed." Going back to what Rick Auricchio said a couple posts ago...perhaps this has something to do with the different NAV DVD regions. I don't know. Just wanted to put that out there in case someone sees any value in the correlation.
well, the DVD in your system is for north america. there is no lost functionality because you do not have the japanese/european/wherever else disk. you do not have the information to begin with. so no need to be upset about that. anyway, i just wanted to steer you pioneers away from potential expensive trouble.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Greenfoot @ Jun 4 2006, 07:57 PM) [snapback]265794[/snapback]</div> Nahhh. A class lawsuit wouldn't be good. After all that screen is NOT for the average user, it's designed for the Service Department. You really can't blame them for doing something you weren't supposed to do in the first place.
