Way to go Catholic Church :-(

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Hidyho, May 28, 2011.

Page 1 of 6
  1. Hidyho

    Hidyho Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    2,698
    529
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    This really makes me mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad:

    (GENOA) — The latest sex-abuse case to rock the Catholic Church is unfolding in the archdiocese of an influential Italian Cardinal who has been working with Pope Benedict XVI on reforms to respond to prior scandals of pedophile priests.

    Father Riccardo Seppia, a 51-year-old parish priest in the village of Sastri Ponente, near Genoa, was arrested last Friday, May 13, on pedophilia and drug charges. Investigators say that in tapped mobile-phone conversations, Seppia asked a Moroccan drug dealer to arrange sexual encounters with young and vulnerable boys. "I do not want 16-year-old boys but younger. Fourteen-year-olds are O.K. Look for needy boys who have family issues," he allegedly said.

    Read more: Priest Sex-Abuse Case in Archdiocese of Benedict's Adviser - TIME
     
    #1 Hidyho, May 28, 2011
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    111,166
    50,601
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    have you been affected by the abuse crimes?
     
    #2 bisco, May 28, 2011
  3. zenMachine

    zenMachine Just another Onionhead

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2007
    3,355
    300
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    wow...
     
    #3 zenMachine, May 28, 2011
  4. Hidyho

    Hidyho Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    2,698
    529
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Nope, but it really upsets me that Catholics and leadership just accept the status quo due to being lemmings, and innocent children get trapped.
     
    #4 Hidyho, May 28, 2011
  5. Chuck.

    Chuck. Former Honda Enzyte Driver

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    2,766
    1,510
    0
    Location:
    Lewisville, TX (Dallas area)
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Is there any organization of size that does not have something scandalous like this going on?

    To be clear, I would never condone/be passive on child molestation.
     
    #5 Chuck., May 28, 2011
  6. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    111,166
    50,601
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    oops!
     
    #6 bisco, May 28, 2011
  7. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    111,166
    50,601
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    yes, i'm outraged by the abuse scandal. but i'm not sure what you mean by acceptance. i think some older Catholics are ignorant or oblivious, possibly out of choice. but many are very upset and many have left the church. i couldn't agree with you more that leadership has not been pro active and basically has been dragged kicking and screaming to address the situation. reminds me of baseball where no one wanted to address the steroid issue. very parallel situations. of course, child abuse is much more serious, but it must be human nature to protect the guilty?
     
    #7 bisco, May 28, 2011
  8. burritos

    burritos Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2006
    4,946
    252
    0
    Location:
    California
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Are you saying that most large organizations have issues with uncontrolled child molestations?
     
    #8 burritos, May 28, 2011
  9. amm0bob

    amm0bob Permanently Junior...

    Joined:
    May 29, 2008
    7,730
    2,547
    0
    Location:
    The last place on earth to get cable, Sacramento
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    II

    More or less... statistics say the probability of the occurrence of something amiss will be greater with larger populations...
     
    #9 amm0bob, May 28, 2011
  10. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    111,166
    50,601
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    unfortunately, child abuse seems to be rampant everywhere. the church may have unwittingly provided room and board for abusers and it grew unchecked like cancer. then, when they realized it, they were too embarrassed to bring light to it and tried to cover it up. maybe nixon was involved.
     
    #10 bisco, May 28, 2011
    1 person likes this.
  11. zenMachine

    zenMachine Just another Onionhead

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2007
    3,355
    300
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    "I can't sleep with my priest anymore because of all the tossing and turning."
    - Zach Galifianakis

    :peep:
     
    #11 zenMachine, May 28, 2011
  12. Stev0

    Stev0 Honorary Hong Kong Cavalier

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2006
    7,201
    1,073
    0
    Location:
    Northampton, MA
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    The surprising thing isn't that he was molesting kids, but that they bothered to investigate at all.
     
    #12 Stev0, May 28, 2011
  13. Chuck.

    Chuck. Former Honda Enzyte Driver

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    2,766
    1,510
    0
    Location:
    Lewisville, TX (Dallas area)
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Guess some of you got bored and needed to have a Catholic-bashing thread and somehow make it seem like the worst blight on Humankind...and what a few do to discredit everybody.

    Sex scandals, misuse of money, drug abuse happens all the time in all political parties in all countries. It happens in sports. It happens in corporations. It happens in secular no-profits such as the American Red Cross.

    You are fixated on attacking religion in general, but Christians and Catholics in particular....it's so monotonous it reminds me of the Star Trek Borg or zombies that repeat ad nauseum: "Must get at Catholics". In advance every post you and a few others post will fixate on that at all costs and NEVER acknowledge good counter-points.

    It really does not bother you about suicide bombers in Pakistan that kill dozens, how the Taliban treat women, or Ratko Maldic will be tried for killing many thousands in the Balkans (250,000 in that war?) Just spend hours obsessing on what you despise and pretend it's worse than Ratko, the Taliban, suicide bombers....
     
    #13 Chuck., May 28, 2011
    1 person likes this.
  14. spiderman

    spiderman wretched

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2009
    7,543
    1,558
    0
    Location:
    Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    I am mad/disappointed too.
     
    #14 spiderman, May 28, 2011
    1 person likes this.
  15. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2003
    19,891
    1,194
    9
    Location:
    Nixa, MO
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    A bit defensive there are we Chuck? This issue has been big for the Catholic church for a long time, it's been very public, yet their efforts (whatever those might be) have not been public. The church put themselves on a moral pedestal and yet allow this sort of thing to happen almost unchecked, not forcing the abusers out of the clergy, but simply moving them to other parishes.

    They need a very public and very loud reform. Perhaps a system something more in line with what the Boy Scouts of America uses--it doesn't 100% stop abuse, by any means, but it certainly makes it much more difficult and more likely that any abusers will be reported and stopped.

    While other places where abuse occurs may not be as well spotlighted, it is, most likely, b/c those organizations haven't somehow claimed some moral superiority, when an organization does than, then shows that they are not, actually, morally superior in any way then people are going to take notice.

    *edit-
    Let me add, the people who should be the MOST outraged are Catholics--this sort of thing reflects upon them in a very negative way. The members should demand change--be that by not donating to the church, refusing to show up for services, sending angry letters to the Pope, changing churches, whatever it takes.
     
    #15 efusco, May 28, 2011
    3 people like this.
  16. SlowTurd

    SlowTurd I LIKE PRIUS'S

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2009
    1,156
    333
    0
    Location:
    nj
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    dear lord, talk about cardinal knowledge...:twitch:
     
    #16 SlowTurd, May 28, 2011
  17. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    111,166
    50,601
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    right. and that has happened here in the boston area and in many other parts of the country and world. unfortunately, the heirarchy are very slow to move. they did commision an independent study at a university (non catholic) who came up with a report on how abuse came about and how to prevent it. hopefully, they will begin to implement it quickly.
     
    #17 bisco, May 28, 2011
  18. Chuck.

    Chuck. Former Honda Enzyte Driver

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    2,766
    1,510
    0
    Location:
    Lewisville, TX (Dallas area)
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Evan,

    In no way was I attempting to say a blind eye be given to the Catholic Church or go easy with them.

    I am just pointing out a few of the same members are harping on stories like this to imply all religion is bad....the Rapture prediction is old news so I guess this one....looking at a pattern at FHOP bigger than this thread. Anyone notice threads like this of nature by a handful of members but directed at secular institutions don't pop up on FHOP? (can't speak for FPHOP)

    Again, the the priests molesting the children need to be punished along with those in the Church complicit with it.
     
    #18 Chuck., May 28, 2011
  19. MSK

    MSK Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2011
    43
    2
    0
    Location:
    Porter, IN
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    I agree with you Chuck. Abuse is everywhere. Problem is the media likes to sensationalize the issue. We catholics are the ones to hate right now.
     
    #19 MSK, May 28, 2011
  20. Trebuchet

    Trebuchet Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    3,772
    936
    43
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Yeah, speaking of organizations (DNC) that put themselves on a moral pedestal and allowing similar things like this to happen! Ha! Let's consider the homosexual pedophile Gerry Studds (D-MA) he was bad enough but then the D's promote him after the scandal to committee chairmanships and he's reelected six more times after he turns his back on the House as they censured him? LOL! Morals? :noidea: Those in glass houses. :rolleyes:

    I wonder what the incidence of molestation is in the medical community and how they handle it?


    Pediatrician who molested 470 children and raped 103 . . .


    WoW! :eek: 470! That would take most Priest's a while to match, eh?
     
    #20 Trebuchet, May 28, 2011
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 6