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Vulnerable under-hood wiring?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by danielarichman, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. danielarichman

    danielarichman Junior Member

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    I test-drove a 2011 Prius IV last weekend and spent a while staring at the fascinating technology under the hood. One thing I saw worried me: numerous very thin wires, with some length of copper exposed, going into plastic connectors. I'm not sure what they do, but they seem extremely vulnerable to damage and crud build-up.

    I haven't seen this topic addressed and wonder whether any educated Prius driver has an opinion on it.

    Many thanks.
     
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    I've never opened the hood and I'm doing just fine :)
     
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    Pics ??

    HEY !!! I see I just graduated to MEMBER, from Junior Member !! :D

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    sounds odd to me. nothing like that on my 08 that i can see?
     
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    Nothing like that on my 2010 Prius. Must be another 1 post GM quality contol exec. :eek:
     
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    Unless it's a 1 post GM quality control troll, any possibility it's a temporary dealer-installed vehicle tracking device?
     
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    I just checked my 2009 Prius and could not find any exposed wire.:confused: Pics are attached. I assume Toyota is conserving tape in the 2011 models:rolleyes:
    Perhaps he's referring to that round yellow thingy :p

    Troll.....:eek:

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    I don't have any exposed copper wires in my Prius engine compartment. Maybe that's the critical difference between 2010 v. 2011 models? LOL...

    Happy Motoring,

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    snead_c you take terrible care of your car! joke.

    I think the OP might be referring to the wire net around the inverter wires. ? Also I noticed the wires going into the engine ECU are rather exposed (no copper but the individual wires are visible).
     
  11. danielarichman

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    No, I'm not a troll, and no, I'm not referring to the silvery mesh around two large cords going into what I believe is the inverter. And unfortunately, I do not have any images, because (as I mentioned) this was a rental.

    Curious that no one seems to be familiar with this matter. I'll amplify if and when I can.
     
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    Perhaps someone was trying to hot-wire the rental. :)
     
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    Well, if no other Gen III owners can find what you've described in your OP, it's most likely something like a dealer-installed vehicle tracking device that they remove prior to purchase.
     
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    Yet another first time poster that has issues with the Prius. People forget this car has been around for over 10 years. How many people have been shocked?
     
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    i'm not making any judgements, evpv might yell at me again.:(
     
  16. danielarichman

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    Your superior attitude is regrettable. Why don't I have the right to ask a question about a potential concern, which others might share, in a vehicle that I'm interested and that you all know a lot about?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Greetings and Welcome! :welcome:

    I'll look at my'10 in the morning....but since I'm a twidget, I usually notice exposed wires, especially exposed wires in a location that makes them susceptible to corrosion.
    Since you're in the 'looking' phase of Priusdom, I'd point this concern out to the crooks who are trying to fleece you out of your hard earned money---a.k.a. the sales 'associates'.
    They won't have a clean answer, but sometimes the stories they come up with are great...and they might be persuaded to peel back some more hoods to see if this is common to '11 G3's or just the one you were looking at.
    I'll get back with you in the morning when I look at mine.
    I'll let you know if I run into an 'educated' Prius driver....

    <*sniff-sniff!*>
    Never mind that noise.....just some gear I'm working with.

    :D

    Good Luck!
     
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    Sorry danielarichman, there is a group of paranoid Prius owners on this forum who like to call anyone that asks a remotely negative question a troll. Hopefully they not a true indication of the type of person who owns a Prius. My apologies, welcome to the forum.

    Here are some photos of the engine compartment of my car. I'm guessing these are the semi-exposed wires you are talking about. I don't see anything with copper showing. But I understand your concerns and I wonder why Toyota used huge shields on some connectors but very little on others.

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  19. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Good Morning!
    As promised, I peeked under the hood of my G3 this morning. I was going to attach some Gucci pix, but I couldn't improve on evpv's photo work. The lighting in my parking lot was sub-optimal for under-the-hood work (see attached.)
    If you look at his first photo, it's representative of Toyota's rather excellent job of under-hood wiring. Better than GM, I'm afraid....:mad:
    The individual conductors are sealed into the plug, with no copper exposed.

    When I did oceanography for a living, we used to take off-the-shelf (COTS---usually Belkin) wire spools and certify them for use in full ocean depth instrumentation. We'd solder and seal the ends of the wire spools, and expose them to a zillion PSI of seawater in a special tank, and then look for failures in the sheathing (the colored plastiky outer layer).
    Results: Nearly 100-percent of the time, the regular old wires like those used in your car's wiring harness will withstand any corrosion that's likely to occur underneath your hood---provided there's no chaff points (rubbing) or some lazy automotive tech doesn't poke holes in the insulation probing for signals and voltages.
    In other words.......don't worry about it. :cool:
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    ETC meant the write "chafe points", not "chaff points". Chaff has been known to cause electrical problems when dropped onto power transmission lines, but that shouldn't be an issue with the Prius.

    :D

    Tom