Toyota UK unveiling of Prius PHV

For short I would call it PiP2 (which includes the Prime as well).

I doubt if the solar panel will be standard for all trims.

The MPGe stated is for Imperial gallon I assume.

 

Why is solar panel standard in the UK? I thought it rains most of the time there... I know supposedly it's not released in the US because of rollover standards... But hopefully it is next year. That might win me over the fact it only has 4 seats

 

I wonder if they are going to supply both cables with the car.

 

Interestingly, anyone notice that the EV mode power is limited to 68 kW (or about 91 hp) according to that press release?

That's quite a bit less than previous estimates of the EV mode power being 127 hp as was presented here: Toyota Doubles EV-Range for 2017 Plug-in Prius | PluginCars.com

 

Yes, the max power in EV is limited by the battery capability - 68kW.
That is about 193A from battery (7.7C discharge rate) BTW.

 

Oh excellent! Today is the day!
Tideland and I have been patiently waiting so long for that number!
>>That is our first quote of EU cargo space! (12.7 ft3)
Between that and CA Green HOV stickers...had to wait such a long wait for the answers.

Later I will give a comparative estimate of Gen2,Gen3,Gen4,PiP and Prime

Re: EPA Cargo Space-
For Liftbacks, the EPA Cargo Space seems to give the opportunity to claim some of the rear seat space as Cargo Space...envision that there is a "gray area" where you could call it rear seat space, or Cargo Space...the EPA method allows claiming that gray area, probably related to window locations etc. So basically Toyota (and others) are intentionally designing to maximize what EPA allows to be claimed.

 

The maximum output of the PiP battery is 38kW that is all you have in EV - so much of an upgrade! MG2 power rating is higher as it accepts current from MG1 as well as from the battery in full load requirements. (when ICE and motor work together).

 

Did I miss somethings? I don't remember reading about the car having the ability to warm the battery.

The wheels look better than those available in the US.

 

The EPA volume is to the ceiling.

It didn't come to the US because of cost. It is a $3000 option in Japan.

They could have simply confused the MG2 power during hybrid operation for EV.

There could be a simple heater in case the battery itself drops below freezing. Most LI-ion chemistries can't be charged at that point. The Leaf has such a heater.

 

Using a battery warms it. When we pre-condition on a cold morning, the pack temp rises because of both electric flow in/out and the interior temp rise from the heater. On a cold day, you get more range if the battery is warm. The opposite holds true on really hot days, the cooler the batt, the more range.

A battery engineer once told me: if you're happy (comfortable), the battery is too.

 

Warming the battery during charging. Programmable.

cited from the press text: In a world-first, the automatic air conditioning is powered by an efficient gas injection heat pump. Using heat absorbed from the outside air, it is capable of warming the cabin without having to start the engine, even when external temperatures drop as low as -10°C. This minimises the impact that heating the car’s interior has on the EV driving range.

During charging, a new battery warming system will also heat the cells to an efficient working temperature. This means full power is available from start-off, even if outside conditions are as cold as -20°C.

Real two color wheels without plastic:



Here pictures of the European style interior with the nice 8" touch screen. There is also left right temperature control.

 

Thanks. I hadn't seen mention of the battery warming ability before. That's just another clever improvement.

 

I don't know for hte UK. In the German press map, I read:

This translates like there is a dedicated model. Probably the top one.

Jan

 

The EU cargo space, on the other hand, is calculated to the sliding cover level, leaving a big 'gray volume' behind the rear seats and above the cover.

 

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Well not sure...how do you know? (sometimes they say)
Part of the problem with cargo space, even when we have a good number, we just about never know what they are including.

Toyota quotes a luggage space (502-liters for Gen4/no spare). That's 17.6 ft3 for Gen4 (vs. 27.4 EPA Cargo Space). If we have or can get the Toyota number then I assume it includes the whole space.