Toyota Suspends Sales of Eight Models - NOT Prius

Toyota needs to do a major overhaul of itself, if it can't do that, its doomed to follow GM.

 

Every now and then the military has faced a safety problem and "stood down." They suspend flight operations and all hands turn to the task of flight safety. Toyota has done exactly what is needed.

When you find yourself in a hole, the first step is to stop digging.

Bob Wilson

 

Or, that may be the 2nd step after admitting that you are in a hole.

 

This is pretty shocking! It must be a Big Problem for Toyota to shut down so many factories, they didn't mention shutting down any plants in Japan on NBC news which I thought was interesting.

 

I just checked the board attached to the article in the Detroit Feee Press and wow, the Detroit metal fanboys are having a great time. It appears they believe that if you can't beat the competition, just hope and wait for them to stumble.

I'd like to ask them what they drove for a couple decades when Detroit built mostly junk and recalls were far more frequent than Toyota's.

 

From what I understand, it is just 3 plants in the USA and 1 plant in Canada where the problem is.

 

In an earlier thread I began about this recall:
http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii...t-toyota-recall-includes-no-prius-models.html
DeadPhish noted (post #2) that all the recalled models are being built in North America, and that this points to a domestic firm that supplied a defective part that wears, slowing accelerator return to idle, and eventually sticking. How to find out which supplier that is?

NBC confirmed that plants in Indiana, Kentucky, Texas and Canada would be idled. I think that all Toyota hybrids are built in Japan.

 

This may not bode well for the planned Mississippi plant...

 

This is what I know at the moment. NOT all Toyotas are effected and NOT all domestic. The problem is with vehicles built in North America that have CTS accelerator pedals. Vehicles built in North America and globally with DENSO accelerator pedals ARE NOT affected.

CTS supplies components to several auto makers including Detroit.

The action by Toyota is voluntary and not ordered by the government.
There is a fix that is awaiting approval by the NTSB. As soon as it is approved then Toyota can start retrofitting the components.

Dealers currrently are going over their inventory to identify which vehicles produced in North America has a CTS pedal (which WILL NOT be sold) and which ones have the Denso pedal (which can be sold).

No Hybrids are affected by this.

 

I called the dealer, as we own a 2009 Corolla. I think I received conflicting/confused info. First of all, she said that my particular car, according to its VIN was manufactured in Japan, so there is no recall on it. I then asked her about the Prius. it is not recalled -- today -- but did receive a recall notice last year for carpets. She said that there is no recall on it, and doesn't know why it would receive the notice -- the notice is for carpets. My real question is about the rumored runaway car issue that exists APART from any carpet issue. Is there a runaway Prius or Corolla, or other Toyata car problem that has been identified, and which is not related to a floor mat being lodged over/under the gas pedal?

 

From a report in USA Today it appears that the supplier is a Canadian subsidiary of Aisin located in Statesville, Ont. This plant also supplies Honda and Nissan but these two say that their designs are different from Toyota's.

The same article indicates that Denso supplies the JDM-made vehicles which are imported here including the Prius. There is no issue on these.

 

Sorry, I failed to read the above comments that clearly explain that the issue is a gas pedal. Now that I read that here, I recall that the woman at Toyota did say that if my Corolla had been recalled, it would have been for the gas pedal, not for carpet alone. So, I guess I am answering my own question?

There are two problems that I know of.
1. a carpet getting stuck under/over the gas pedal.
2. a gas pedal that is too long, according to the woman at Toyota, and I don't know if this problem must coexist with a carpet issue or not.

I know people will clarify for me.

 

The 2010 MY Highlander is the first one to be moved from Japan to Princeton. Now why it uses the CTS assembly and the Sienna also at Priinceton does not???

Maybe because the new 2011 now in production has switched suppliers.

 

Maybe that is
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Let me put this question in clearer terms. EEEEGAAAADSSSS Is there really a runaway car issue? If so, is it due to accelerator pedal, carpet, both, or.... and this is what I am really worried about....

some other mystery issue?

If there is some other issue, please tell me more!!!!

 

You can always lookup recalls on cars at Safercar.gov.

As for "carpets", no. The earlier recall was due to floor mats (which might be carpeted). It's not the carpets on the floor of the car.

As for the 09 Corolla, see my posts at http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-h...as-pedal-sticking-unrelated-floor-mats-2.html. It seems that only NA made vehicles are affected due to the Ontario, Canada based supplier of the pedal assemblies (CTS). If your VIN starts w/a J, the car is made in Japan.

As for other mystery runaway issues affecting the Prius or Corolla not related to the above two recalls. We don't know. There may/may not be one.

BTW, judging by the poll at http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...-you-removed-your-drivers-side-floor-mat.html, 2nd gen Prius owners here don't seem too concerned about the floor mat recall.

FWIW, I don't even have the factory floor mats and have non-secured aftermarket ones. My parents and I have run w/stacked (unsecured aftermarket on top of OEM) or just unsecured aftermarket mats for decades w/o issue on Toyotas and non-Toyotas.

 

The Camry hybrid is built in Georgetown,Ky. But I believe I read somewhere that only line #1 is stopping production there or something like that which leads me to speculate that maybe the Camry hybrid is staying in production there.

 

Someone needs to remind them ... it's not nice to laugh at their owners ... us ... the U.S. taxpayers. I don't see OTHER welfare recipients laughing at those that are supplying their handouts.

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