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Total Noob, Coolant Issues

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by go1ngplat, Sep 25, 2024.

  1. go1ngplat

    go1ngplat New Member

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    Hey all, first post here but I'm sure it won't be my last now...

    For a little backstory, got my 2012 Prius a little over a year ago (195k miles, almost at 200k now!), everything's been great with it until recently. This is my first car, nobody in my family really "cares" about cars and they have the money to just take them to the shop if something's wrong, I don't. I know next to nothing about how a car works or how to maintain one.

    About a month ago I had the engine temp light come on (had to google what it was, I mean I know NOTHING about my car). I figured this was because I had neglected to get an oil change done for a while, called a shop and got an oil change and full cooling system flush done, apparently the light was caused by low coolant. Drove off thinking nothing of it, he said there were no leaks.

    Fast forward a bit, I moved across the country (1000+ miles) with a shitload of stuff in my car with 100+ degree temps and definitely higher internally when I wasn't in the vehicle for 2 days. Been here about 3 weeks now, I was driving on the highway and happened to glance down and saw the engine temp light was on once again. Pulled over to the shoulder, waited 5 min, light turned off after like 30 seconds and I was back on my way for another 30ish minutes of driving.

    Got home, checked the coolant, EMPTY. Image attached. IMG_5465.jpeg

    I NEED to drive this car 20-30 minutes within the next 2 days, including some highway driving.

    Did a lot of reading through old threads, and I've come to the conclusion that I can just "top off" (the completely empty tank, lol) with some Supertech Asian Red 50/50. Just dump it in, run the car in maintenance mode with the heater on and coolant cap off for 5 minutes, screw on the coolant cap tight, and I'm good to go? I really can't afford to take it to the shop, the time or money. I've already sank too much money into this vehicle.

    Is this accurate? Can anyone foresee catastrophic issues with anything about this? I've made myself really nervous about this by reading about different coolants gumming up when mixed, or air being trapped in the cooling system, etc. but I'm assuming at the end of the day having coolant in there, perfect or not, is always going to be better than the tank being empty. There's a hurricane coming here and I need to get groceries and register my vehicle here before I run into issues with my insurance.

    Any (hopefully prompt) help or insight is appreciated. Coolant should arrive tomorrow, couldn't get the Toyota SLLC in time without spending ~$70 on Ubers. I know none of this is ideal, just trying to make sure I don't set anything on fire accidentally at this point.
     

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  2. Eddie25

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    Most likely the catastrophic problem has already occurred in the form of a blown head gasket. Do you ever get rough engine starts?

    IF you NEED to drive your car at the very least top it off with coolant, but if you plan on getting the car fixed it'd be recommended not to drive it. It might actually be too late at this point. You could try "stop leak" products, but that's if there's no other options (you're broke and you NEED to use the car). You might get some more miles out of it, but you would essentially be condemning the future of the car for yourself or anyone else and make it even harder to get money out of a sale (unless you are scummy).

    Either plan to get rid of it (these cars can be a nightmare at this mileage for non-car people), or start planning on getting it fixed either with a new engine or a repair. Typically you'll find the best luck with hybrid specialty shops or someone who has experience with these cars because most other shops will just give outrageous quotes. There are several other 'catastrophic' issues that could occur within the next few years, so keep that in mind.

    If you don't get rough starts and your car has an exhaust heat exchanger, there's a small chance you have a leak there which would be great because then you could probably just top off coolant for a while without risking too much serious damage, but that's wishful thinking. Check to see if your tailpipe has signs of leaking coolant.

    Sorry for the bad news.
     
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  3. Brian1954

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    Add the Asian Red coolant to the reservoir until the level is just above the seam in the tank. Put the cap back on the reservoir and drive the car around at speeds under 50 mph for 10 to15 minutes. Return home and turn the car off. Check the coolant level in the reservoir. If it is below the seam on the tank, let the car cool down for an hour or two, then slowly remove the cap and add coolant until the level is just above the seam. You should now be good to drive the car at speeds up to 50 mph.

    The problem with your overheating is that the engine coolant pump is spinning (rotating) slower than is needed to cool the engine. The pump is an electrically driven pump, and it needs to be replaced. Do not drive the car at speeds above 50 mph until the pump is replaced. You can search this Gen 3 forum for more information about the electric engine coolant (water) pump. You will find pictures showing the pump impeller with cracks in the white plastic.

    The best replacement pump is a Toyota OEM pump (~$225). The second best pump is an AISIN WPT-190 pump (~$145 at Amazon). Do not use a cheaper pump because you will probably have a problem with it.

    I assume you will take the car to a shop to replace the pump. Get it done ASAP!
     
  4. Eddie25

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    Good point. I hadn't really noticed the crustiness on the overflow tank. A bad water pump would cause the overheating which would cause the coolant to burst out the cap. The problem is that even just one overheat instance on these cars is pretty bad and if it hasn't already pushed your head gasket over the edge already it's probably pushed it closer.
     
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    It's just the seller's stop-leak product wearing off? Anyway, with those miles, very likely failed head gasket. If you stick with it, look into EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system cleaning. See top two links in my signature (on a phone turn it landscape to see signatures). Also some head gasket info in my signature.