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Top Picks for 2006, ConsumerReports

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by ken1784, Mar 2, 2006.

  1. ken1784

    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    Top Picks for 2006
    The best models in 10 categories

    Four new models made our Top Picks list this year. The redesigned Honda Civic is our choice among sedans priced below $20,000. The outstanding Infiniti M35 dethroned the Lexus LS430 in the luxury-sedan class ($40,000 or more). The Toyota Highlander Hybrid scored highest among SUVs priced above $30,000. Among pickup trucks, our choice is the new Honda Ridgeline.

    The addition of the Highlander Hybrid means that our Top Picks now include two hybrid models, but for very different reasons. The Toyota Prius is our Top Pick in the “greenâ€-car category because of its excellent 44-mpg overall fuel economy, the best we’ve measured in any five-passenger vehicle. The high rating of the Highlander Hybrid is based on its excellent overall package, which includes all the inviting attributes of the conventional Highlander as well as better acceleration and moderately better fuel economy. For an in-depth look at the ownership costs of hybrids, see our April 2006 report on the high cost of hybrid vehicles, available to subscribers.

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    Amazingly, all picks in top 10 categories are Japanese brands.

    Ken@Japan
     
  2. JackDodge

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    The most interesting paragraph from the article in the Detroit Free Press:


    "The magazine’s analysis of reliability over several years found the average three-year-old Ford or Chrysler has as many problems as an eight-year-old Toyota."

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...NEWS11/60301011
     
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    This is such hogwash! :angry: Quick back-of-the-envelope calculation of the gas costs for a Prius vs. a comparable car after 150,000 miles:

    Prius: 150,000 miles / 45MPG (conservative estimate) = 3333 gallons of gasoline
    CC: 150,000 miles / 30MPG = 5000 gallons of gasoline

    Cost of 1667 extra gallons of gasoline at $3/gallon: $5000

    Does CR believe the price premium of a Prius is more than $5000? (Or $8000 if you factor in the current giant tax rebate?) :blink:

    And this from a magazine that's supposed to help me make more informed purchasing decisions.
     
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    I say just consider the source!:
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  5. v.jones

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    All depends upon your assumptions... at an "average" 15,000 miles per year (above which, Kelly Blue Book tends to treat your vehicle as "high mileage"), you're talking about a 10 year payback. With a payback that long, you need to consider the net present value (NPV) of the savings. $1 today is worth a lot more than $1 ten years in the future. (Just how much more will depend upon your assumptions on a reasonable rate of return on your investment of the price difference). You're also assuming immunity from AMT and gasoline priced high enough to impact reelection chances :-(

    I tend to agree with Consumer Reports. The gas savings alone are not sufficient to justify buying a hybrid. Note that that does not mean that the savings are insignificant, just that if all other factors were equal, the gas savings would not make enough difference. In my case, there were enough other reasons to make the Prius my first choice for this purchase.

    Vince
     
  6. tripp

    tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?

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    That just shows you the slipery slop of the "premium". It totally depends on the cost of gasoline. Looks like they've estimated the cost of gas to be $2.61/gal. That's not bad, but will it be the average cost of gasoline over the 5 years? Maybe, maybe not. Their biggest mistake is comparing it to a corrolla. I think their second area of concern is the depreciation. I think you could make the argument that the prius' depreciation will be better is the cost of gasoline continues to rise. They also assume that the car is being financed. That's reasonable, but may not apply. I would think that the 5 year maintenance costs would be the other way. Fewer oil changes, brakes changes. Also, how do they know what the maintenance costs for a gen 2 are? Are they extrapolating? They did a poor job of explaining their methods. They should also be stating why they chose to select the corrolla as the comparison vehicle.