"Tookie" Williams, Thumbs Up or Down?

WHAT! No Poll?

 

His supporters say he as reformed his life:
He was also convicted of murdering four people . . . he reformed their lives . . . and their loved ones'. He still doesn’t admit responsibility for the murders.

He writes children’s books:
Who know what great deeds those he murdered may have done.

He was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize:
So was Adolph Hitler. Tookie was nominated by ultra-liberal San Francisco professors . . . who just so happen to be anti-death penalty. Go figure.

He is an anti-gang crusader:
One who refuses to divulge information against the Crips gang in which he was a co-founder.

Politically Arnold has more to lose than gain by saving him.

 

"Write-in" poll, eh?

Arnold can't win this one, even if only 10% of Ca-lee-fornyuns wanna see Tookie spared.

Load up the syringe. Let's move on to some real problems.

 

As a native of Los Angeles. I had lived in a Crips neighborhood and I believe "Tookie" should be executed, because he created the Crips. Thousands and thousands of innocent people and gangters have been killed by the various Crips clicks in L.A. and thousands of people this very moment, live in a life of fear because of the Crips, Bloods, 18th Street, MS 13 and other gangs in L.A.

Too bad, power defense attorney Johnny Cochran passed away earlier this year.
I think he could of have saved "Tookie" from the needle.

 

If the needle fits you must inject!

 

I'm not for the death penalty per se BUT...

Stanley is the poster child for it.

HE was found guity by a jury of his piers and was sentenced appropriately according to the laws of CA.

He may see the light now but it is a little too late to save those he savagedly murdered.

Please don't call him Tookie. That name sounds like a children's nickname.

Thanks for the forum.

olcorral.

 

On top of that, I read somewhere that his prison bank account is unusually "high"... Hmmm... profits from his kids books, or gangbangers "paying" respect?

IMO, just because you write children's books, does not suddenly excuse you, to any degree, from killing 4 people. If they let him live, then what, all death row inmates start writing children's books?

 

Oddly, I agree.

I don't think anything good comes of it, other than pure vengence for the victim's families, friends, etc. Often times, it seems as if it's the "easy" way out. Michael Ross in CT, a serial killer who killed a few girls in the early 80's, wanted to be executed. I'm all for hard, useful, labor, but unfortunately (depending upon how you look at it), there's that "cruel and unusual" thingy...

 

He's a killer. There is no way ANYONE could ever reform themselves enough to make up for that.

 

is there any point to it after 24 years?

 

give him the needle, bill the family and stop wasting my tax dollars on death row inmates upkeep.

 

Fry him!

 

I agree! Let him face the same punishment his murder victims faced.

 

The majority of the posts here support the execution of Tookie Williams.

Since Tookie is from Southern California, I noticed every post from the Southern California area wants Tookie executed. I wonder why! because people who live in the Los Angeles metropolitan area don't like drive by shootings, extortion, murder, robberies, car jackings and etc.

Maybe you people who are against the death penalty can move out here in Los Angeles and pay our taxes to support the upkeep if Tookie and also protect us against car jackings and drive by shootings.

 

I myself don't think the death penalty does any good. It does not deter anyone from killing. I seem to recall that the cost to put someone to death most of the time costs much more than life. Who you think pays the legal bills for the appeals? Also there is the occasionaly miscarriage of justice of the wrongly convicted. Just a day or 2 ago a man was released from prison after 24years when new dna tests proved he was innocent. This is of coarse just my opinion.

 

The subject here is about Tookie Williams, not the entire death penalty system in the United States.
The cost of executing Tookie Williams will be far less expensive than every single court case that has been associated with Tookie's Crips organization over the years. I'd like you come to South Central LA and talk to the people who had their relative or friend murderd by Tookie's Crips. It's easy for you to be against killing Tookie, you live in South Dakota! far away from inner city crime.

 

It is true that South Dakota does not have the level of inner city crime, but that has nothing to do with this. I was simply stating my opinion that having Williams put to sleep won't change anything. The gangs will continue without him. The costs of the other crimes you mentioned won't change. I don't think that if or when he dies, the gang crimerate will drop. I do feel for people that have to live in the areas of high crime.