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Thought on ice starting every 124 miles

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  1. retired4999

    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Yesterday I was getting close to 124 miles since last time the ice started.
    I ran out of battery and the ice started, I was just ten blocks from home and I just thought well, thats ok because the ice would start in a few miles anyway. I got home and parked the car.
    The next morning I was going to coffee, just one mile after leaving home my car unexpectedly started and I thought, why would it start today when it just started yesterday. I have had unexpected ice starts before and never given it a thought until today. Is it just a coincident? or did Toyota program the computers to start the ice every 124 miles, starting from day one, 0 miles and it just tells the ice to start at every 124 miles, even if it just was running a few miles ago. If the ice is already running it just ignores, if it is not running it starts the ice, even if it was just running yesterday because now it's 124 miles!
    Does this make sense? Or am I going crazy!
    I hope this all makes sense. I have a hard time trying to explain this whole mess!
     
    #1 retired4999, Sep 25, 2013
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    Probably, if you were just 10 blocks from home the ICE didn't do a complete warm-up cycle and so the computer did not count it as fulfilling the need to do all the diagnostics it has. So it decided to do another one to bug you today! :whistle:
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Nope! It did a complete warm up and was back in normal HV mode. The ice shut off at a red light just before I got home.
     
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    isn't it below zero there yet?;)
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Some mornings it seems like it! :D
     
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    Similar nonsense here - I went HV just 2 days prior and less than 100 miles when ICE kicked in as I was entering my garage last night. This morning it kicks in again not only adding a couple more gas miles but a kwh well in advance. It was about 50 degrees nothing like Wisconsin ;-)
    As a result it really dropped my miles / kwh
    I was at 7.0 in an effort to catch you before it's freezing !
     
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    If it drops into the 50s the ICE will start. It happened to me all last year, the battery likes is warmer. When it’s over 60 degrees it won’t start unless you accelerate to fast, or have the thermostat set warmer then the outside temperature.
     
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    For me that seems to happen only intermittently. I have driven around without the ICE starting even when it was below 20°F, but then for no reason at all it will fire up... I do not know... ???
     
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    there are a large number of factors that come into play, but since it's late sept., i would agree temp is one of them.
     
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    (y) :D Happy it is just not me! :whistle:
     
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    I drove mine last year and even at 0 to -10 degrees, I could go with out the ice starting, but maybe I was not as aggresive as I was this day. I guess I have to get used to the cold again. :whistle:
     
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    same here - plenty of 30 degree days when I bought in March and this didn't happen...
     
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    Did you charge the car in this particular night?
     
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    Yes, I charge every night, start at 4:30 am, so done about 6:50 am. Also parked in a heated garage set to 45 degrees f.
    I don't remember the temps that morning, but about 50-55 degrees so probably about 65 degrees f in the garage. ICE fired about one mile after leaving home. Same route I have used for the last 18 months.
     
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    same - its always plugged in
    and garage is not heated but reasonably warm in fact even though the outdoor temp was 50 something the garage must've been 60 or so because that's what the initial temp read was
     
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    IIRC, there's a list in the owner's manual that tells you when the ICE may start.
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Yep! I think toward the end of the page it say's something to the effect,
    and I will start when I darn well please! Just enjoy your car! :p
     
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    Keeps us on our toes, sorta like Russian Roulette. ;)
     
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    I've had the mandatory 124 mile ICE start happen many times. And I've run in EV only except for 2-3 mandatory 124 ICE starts a couple of times. I'm pretty sure it always resets the mileage counter every time the ICE starts and fully warms up.

    Mike
     
    #19 3PriusMike, Sep 27, 2013
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