A book by Michael E. Mann and Tom Tales, reads like old Testament with a lot of begatting and detailing the sins of the deniers and their tribal organizations. But there were some gems. On pp. 115: . . . The great gears of climate change, once set in motion, will inexorably be grinding toward the planet's demise. By then, the bad actors will have already accumulated their short-term personal gain, died, and passed it along to their children . . . It is difficult to know whether climate change contrarians have taken their positions out of good faith, ignorance, willful ignorance, or calculated deceit. . . . This pretty well sums it up. Natural laws don't give a hoot who wins an election or gets whatever because the affairs of men mean nothing. Rather trying to figure out the natural laws and what is going on is terribly difficult to do and is not advanced by those making non-scientific claims. From pp. 138: Then on pp. 146-147: Leave the madhouse. Stop equivocating when discussing the science. If you meet someone who says that there is no warming or that the facts are not know, don't argue the point. Simply say politely that denial is no longer a respectable position because it's not. If he asks for evidence, hand him this book. Direct her to the reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the National Academy of Sciences. If he says that all science is suspect, tell him that view smacks of paranoid conspiratorialims, and don't debate it any further. Move along to a sensible person who may actually want to help solve the problem. Kind of like putting @mojo on an 'ignore user list.' We're not dealing with an honest broker but someone who seems either unwilling or incapable of honestly dealing with empirical facts and data. Sad but just noise on the Internet like the contents of my e-mail SPAM folder. There are a list of useful actions such as joining groups who see the real world and supporting their work. Buying The Madhouse Effect being one such step. Granted, the first 100 or so pages is pretty much a recap of the bad actors. Bob Wilson
That's how I see it. We are putting carbon back into the air that wasn't there since before the time of the dinosaurs, and at a rate that hasn't been seen on this planet since the Great Dying.
Bob you were going to find out who produced the models that have actually been correct.Why have you never reported who made them?
Observed temperatures are lower that the models, but they still show substantial warming occurring. So we should do nothing about reducing carbon emissions?
I tend to use this source: Berkeley Earth I suspect the 2016 data has yet to be integrated into their datasets. Regardless, any error seems to be bracketed by the particular model of choice: Berkeley Earth To the far right edge, we see some models above and below the temperature record. Perhaps you have a different source? I also notice that many of the single model comparisons go only to 1999. There is about a 15-16 year gap. I'm hoping the project hasn't shutdown but would feel better if more current data where there. Personally, I'm more in the camp 'they ain't making it any more.' We're burning up fossil fuel much faster than making it and thus leading to harder and harder to extract resources and eventual collapse. Like some of the West Virginia coal mining areas and Alaska North Slope oil, once it is gone, it ain't comin' back. In contrast, wind turbines on the mountain ridges will keep turning as long as the sun shines. Better still, sun shine is a great source ... natural fusion captured. Source: I’d Put My Money on the Sun and Solar Energy | Quote Investigator Newton described a conversation between Thomas Edison, automobile manufacturer Henry Ford, and tire manufacturer Harvey Firestone. Edison began with a provocative remark about the possible depletion of resources in the future. Boldface has been added to excerpts: 2 “We are like tenant farmers, chopping down the fence around our house for fuel, when we should be using nature’s inexhaustible sources of energy—sun, wind, and tide.” Firestone responded that oil and coal and wood couldn’t last forever. They’d been tackling rubber. He wondered how much hard research was going into harnessing the wind, for example. Windmills hadn’t changed much in a thousand years.” Ford said there were enormously powerful tides—for example, the Bay of Fundy. Scientists had only been playing with the question so far. Edison said, “I’d put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don’t have to wait till oil and coal run out before we tackle that. I wish I had more years left!” So I'm with them. Bob Wilson
Bob your graph illustrates how fraudsters faked the thermometer temp record to match the failed climate models. Global Warming Is The Biggest Fraud In Science History | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog
