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The future of Batteries on CNN

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by DaveinOlyWA, Sep 17, 2004.

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    did anyone catch the segment on CNN about using fuel cells for battery operated items like cell phones and laptops??

    well that was interesting but at the end of the segment the "expert" from Pop Sci ( i think) said something that made me choke on my burrito. she claimed that NiMH batteries should be discharged almost completely once a month and then recharged. failure to do so will cause the battery to form "crystals" and thus reduce the life and charge of the battery.

    now im fairly sure that this is another case of another person talking faster than they can think....
     
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    ooops... error... that was fox news...
     
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    There was a great article in Fine Homebuilding having to do with Cordless Drills etc. Most all of which use NiMH battery system. It directly addressed the issue of battery charging cycles and how they effect battery life. Bottom line is that they concur with Dave's posting above. Deep discharging can and will lead to reversal of polarity in some cells, which over the long haul deminishes battery capacity and life.

    In other words, the Pop Sci "expert" was just reiterating an urban myth.
     
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    Re: Hydrogen Fuel Cells for laptops and cell phones:

    Scientific American, in their article about the effectiveness of hydrogen as a fuel for automobiles, said that the perfect fit for hydrogen fuel cells is small electric devices, like cell phones and laptops.

    (Though I wonder: does that mean there's a tiny exhaust pipe or stack on your cell phone? Giving off occasional drops of water, and the smell of clean laundry? :) )
     
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    I have found this to be an excellent article about rechargable batteries:

    Batteries In A Portable World

    It says that modern nickel-based batteries are not very prone to crystalization and that NiMH batteries are less prone than NiCd. I would not say that the "memory effect" is a myth, but I think the once per month deep discharge routine is outdated since it mostly applies to older NiCd batteries.

    I also have to believe that the Toyota engineers are aware of all this and have designed the Prius to handle the NiMH battery appropriately.
     
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    actually there are laptops in japan now that run on butane. they use micro turbines to generate electricity. the average laptop needs about 20-30 of these "mighty mites" to generate enough power. a fillup only will run the laptop for about 2 hours, but who cares?? how long does it take to refill when using butane?

    japan gets all the cool geek stuff waaay before we do. the scary part is that if it doesnt do well there, it never comes here at all.

    the butane laptops i first read about a 1½ years ago... hopefully they will make it here, that is what i am holding out for since my laptop should have been replaced 3 years ago.