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Tesla wins Big - Autopilot Lawsuit

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by hill, Oct 31, 2023.

  1. hill

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    Tesla Wins First Jury Trial Over Fatal Autopilot Crash (3)
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    i don't understand how a jury could take four days to figure out this no brainer
     
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    Jury duty helps explain. If I remember correctly, the vote was "9-3".

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    Yes - unlike criminal jury trials requiring 100% unanimously - civil trials (in calif) are decided by percentage of jury voters. That's fair because it's easier for the plaintiff to win. Instead of beyond a reasonable doubt (ie; it's not reasonable that the sun won't rise tomorrow - because a death star may theoretically blow up the sun) - in a civil trial - it's more likely you believe one view or the other - tipping that scale - 51%.
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    Wouldn’t that make for less deliberation?
     
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    Wouldn’t that make for less deliberation?
     
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    Unfortunately depends on how much successful smoke and mirrors the plaintiff manages to put forth.
     
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    Judging from their lawyers comments after the verdict, not much.

    but I have to think on any jury, you’re going to get people with biases on both sides of the issue with a topic like Tesla self driving
     
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    After four days, someone probably caved cause they just wanted to go home
     
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    Henry Fonda deja vu - 12 Angry Men !

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