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  1. hill

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    Couple days ago went to the combo Town Pump & lucky lil's Casino just 6 or 7 minutes up the road for cheap diesel & to dump the motorhome black & gray tanks.

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    Going in to pay & out of the corner of my eye, low & behold - what should I see .... 8 shiny new supercharger stalls. Maybe it's just that I haven't been keeping up, but I see they are no longer appliances that you can see rifht through the middle, but rather are solid all the way through. Would like to have seen one separated apart from the others, to allow easier access to owners Towing trailers.

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    Being somewhat remote to major interstates - one would imagine these types of locations are to fill in charging gaps that more easily allow people to get into places like Glacier National Park, which is probably around 35 or 40 minutes away. Prior to these, EV owners would have to depend on the mercy of various campgrounds and/or hotels
    Go Tesla !!
     
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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    that's cool, we need more of that.
     
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    A bank of ten new Tesla Superchargers went into service not far from me last month, after significant delays. Instead of the style you show, these still have the familiar hole-in-the-center style.
    Trying to refill my PHEV midday, I'm getting mixed results. A majority of place still have nothing, and among those with J1772 outlets, similar numbers of places open vs busy.

    Among RV parks used for bike event support, for EVs bringing their own L2 EVSEs for 50-amp RV outlets, Winthrop was very accommodating and friendly, Chelan and Ft Flagger State Park completely non-accommodating. I'll be looking to increase my sample size.
     
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    Completely unrelated to this thread ...

    When I looked at the same map section you displayed above, it highlighted a completely different selection of businesses. Is "the algorithm" profiling map users and choosing which businesses to highlight / advertise to each individual user, just as web portal and social media news feeds are individually customized?

    I've been bypassing web portals and staying away from the usual major social media, but it seems this nano-profiling and -targeting runs much deeper.
     
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    Just a guess - but it's likely a result of leaving 'location' feature turned on recently. Off topic - but my Proto brand swivel 18" breaker bar started stretching &, being disgusted with the difficulty of getting it replaced or repaired (vent - NO ONE should be expected to keep receipts for over 24 years) - I just stopped off at Harbor Freight & picked up one of theirs for ⅓ the cost (easier returns, too.) That'd explain the harbor freight logo on the map.

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    i DO note that when running thru a VPN and not in any sign-in accounts - everything stays nice & clean
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    Typo, too late to edit. That was the campground at Fort Flagler State Park, across the bay from Port Townsend, in my state.
     
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    just read up on the Kalispell stalls. Commissioned this month. Cables are an extra 3' longer than our usage of the system back & up to 2018. Plus - 350kW. Yeaow-Za! wonder how new a tesla has to be, in order to take full advantage of 350kW ... as well as how long that power is maintained prior to charge speed slowing down ...

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    some guy from a few states over - passing thru in a cyber truck got 1st use a few days ago - starting at over 65% charge wasn't able to get more than 77kW's ....

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    supposedly - a software ota is soon to happen that'll allow their trucks to charge at up to 1,000 VOLTS. sheez!
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    You better believe it. I believe it 100% due to a recent event that opened my eyes. I have an iphone issued to me by my company. I have it in my pocket or within arms reach 24/7, so I have no need for a personal cellphone. I have a laptop issued to me by my company. I have a personal laptop at home. They don't mix, ever.

    A handful of months ago, I was in a control room at work familiarizing one of our new managers with his responsibilities. We got on the topic of a cooling system for some of our electronics that uses a specialized fan and I was explaining I had purchased a spare and it was in his office. When I got home later that night and logged into my PERSONAL laptop, ads populated on the screen for that specific fan. You want to know what all these data centers are being built for? This is one of the reasons. Billions of people, having every minute of their every day lives recorded and saved, by any device with listening or viewing capability. The world is crazy. The machines really are listening, lol. All those people with tinfoil hats were right.
     
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    No audio or video snooping is needed to put all this together. In addition to all the usual internet device IDs, every device that communicates by cellular radio, wifi, bluetooth, NFC, etc., has a unique identifier on each separate radio's physical transceiver circuit. So in theory, once they associate or correlate any of these IDs with any other ID already connected to an individual, they can track people's activity and location by any one of those radio systems, whenever your device steps within range of any of those systems that participate in any given "big data" collection network. No messaging activity even needed on your part, the business's wifi or Bluetooth or whatever only needs to identify your device within their signaling territory, and report it up to its "cloud(s)".

    Originally, we would have been somewhat protected by lack of widespread "big data" collection and processing. That is probably long past. The business and intelligence values to collating it all is huge, much too large for some enterprising folks to pass up.

    Real world example: This is also likely how Israel identified the homes of so many Hamas members in Gaza, bombing or shelling most of them at night. Put together with "big data" AI and typically given about only 20 seconds of human review per target. (They did use plenty of facial recognition too, of undetermined accuracy.) Which is probably why Hezbollah in Lebanon then required all its member to give up their mobile phones, and use the pagers and other means instead. Even when those pagers exploded, they got a much smaller fraction of Hezbollah than of Hamas.
     
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    I suppose in a big brother thread, no better place to talk about Big Brother. When cameras are on most every corner, is there really anyway to avoid it? Both the good and the bad? I was able to clock my better ½ driving at 85 mph on a freeway on ramp thru the Tesla app. She was ticked off that I was watched her. As though she thought Big Brother wasn't?
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    The new station near me was under construction and commissioning for many months. After foundation work, the EVSE stations and main utility box installed first, the utility's big station transformer installed last, the utility's energy meter dark another week, then lit and showing 00000 kWh. The next time I saw it, 7 Teslas were connected, with an 8th backing up to plug in.

    It got busy real quick.
     
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    It'll be interesting this winter to see how many people come in to the local Big Mountain ski area that need to use superchargers. I'd guess usage will be much higher for tourist come next summer. Locally I'm guessing there are less than ½ dozen Teslas in the Valley ... from what I've seen. It's a high percentage suv, Subaru, jeep & pick up truck area.
     
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    The voting for the next Supercharger locations has opened yesterday for Q4 2024. I was pleasantly surprised to see it's still ongoing with the canning of the Supercharger team last spring.