1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Stanford's nanowire battery holds 10 times the charge of existing ones

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bdmclacken, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. bdmclacken

    bdmclacken New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2006
    3
    0
    0
    Location:
    Antioch, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Stanford's nanowire battery holds 10 times the charge of existing ones
    http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2008/january9/nanowire-010908.html
     
  2. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    10,664
    567
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    If it's good I hope a company that will readily use the technology (Toyota) gets hold of it before a company that want to lock it away from the world (oil companies and US car makers) to extend the status quo.
     
  3. Sufferin' Prius Envy

    Sufferin' Prius Envy Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2004
    3,998
    18
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Lock it away? Won't happen.

    Patents on an evolutionary development of this scale will be worth hundreds of billions of dollars over the patent's lifetime . . .
    and Stanford is going to want their royalties. ;)

    No oil company or car maker has that kind of money to throw down a drain without their shareholders demanding heads to roll if the patents aren't developed to their fullest potential for the shareholders financial gain.

    Imagine every single battery in the world becoming obsolete virtually over night. Imagine the new potentials and markets developing because of this new super battery. The energy from wind farms and solar panels can now be captures and used as a base source . . . not just when the wind is blowing or the sun is shining. Living 'off the grid' could now become a simple reality of life for all, not just the granola crunchers and the third world.
     
  4. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    10,664
    567
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I believe you and I hope we are right.
     
  5. clett

    clett New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2005
    537
    19
    0
    Location:
    Scotland
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Remember the silicon based battery only manages about 10 charge cycles before it's dead. There's a long way to go before that issue is sorted.

    Anyway, Polyplus lithium-air batteries have a theoretical energy density of 11,600 Wh/kg... compared to 46 Wh/kg of the current Prius battery! :eek:
     
  6. etyler88

    etyler88 etyler88

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2005
    450
    2
    0
    Location:
    Dover, DE
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius

    Problem solved. that issue is directly adressed in the article. the silicon does not fracture.
     
  7. clett

    clett New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2005
    537
    19
    0
    Location:
    Scotland
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
  8. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    man oh man oh man!!!

    once again, we are screwing ourselves... so it takes 2 years to get the battery, another 2 years to get the car...

    if EV's were already mainstream, or at the very least a healthy niche in the southern tier states, we would have money behind the manufacturing process already in place and new battery tech would be in the cars in 12-18 months...instead we are looking at 4 years minimum...

    all because the oil companies want to eek out every last penny from us first... we are PATHETIC!!

    you all can start calling me Dolly...

    OH WAIT!! i do have an EV...

    ok, fine.... call me Dolly Junior then
     
  9. jstack

    jstack New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2005
    211
    38
    12
    Location:
    Chandler Arizona
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    I
    There are some REAL good new advanced batteries out there.

    ALTI altair nano lithium, A local Phoenix AZ guy has set a EV dragster World speed record with his new set.
    The Phoenixmotor cars SUT all electric truck will use them.
    http://www.altairnano.com/index.html

    Aeroenviroment tested them for 10 minute recharge and 1-2 hour EV discharge with no problems.

    Also many good lithium battery companies like Valence out of Autin Texas and A123 combines with hymotion to make 100 mpg plug-in hybrids.
    http://www.valence.com/products/ucharge_overview.html


    None are cheap but all are very good with long life.
     
  10. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    14,487
    1,518
    0
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    This is an important breakthrough. But it's only a small step towards a commercially available battery. It will take a lot more R&D before this leads to a battery for any real-world application. It's promising. But it's not tomorrow.

    Altairnano's battery has several very important advantages over lithium-ion, but it has slightly less energy density and it costs more. I believe it's similar to the one presently being installed in my Xebra. I think it's worth a try, or I would not be having it installed. But it's beyond the financial reach of most Xebra owners. I also believe the Phoenix Motorcars SUT uses the Altairnano batteries, and costs more than anyone on this board would be willing to pay.