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Old news. When will they have a vehicle out to market?

limited production of solid-state batteries would start in 2025.
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Even in this unlikely best case scenario, too little, too late.

 

i picked one up this morning, nice ride. beats the hydrobomb

 

No, don’t see it. There’s no vehicle. Where is the vehicle?

 

two shoulder surgeries, they are very light due to the hydrogen

 

Gotta love when somebody sees this in an article:

and pulls out the pre-accelerated "would start in 2025" part from July to call it "old news".

The new report says "prototype next year, ahead of a production launch relatively soon after that".

 

Will they beat Ford, BMW, and others to market? Will it be price competitive with current Li-ion?

 

.... and once it failed safety regulations, Toyota managed to weasel some safety waivers. Great. That's what I'd want for a 10, 000 PSI hydrogen can .... safety waivers.
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5 years,..... ½ decade, well, that's a half decade sooner than when the hydrogen industry says their vehicles will be ready for volume. And how many times has that 10-year clock continually been reset?
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Huh, have you too snipped out the part that advanced "2025" to "next year"? Was that deliberate?

 

You earn a fail.

• Toyota built a working solid-state battery-powered prototype vehicle that was supposed to be shown off at the Olympic Games this summer.
• Toyota is partnering with Panasonic to put solid-state batteries into limited production in 2025, but don't expect them on your Toyota vehicle that soon.

Toyota’s Quick-Charging Solid-State Battery Coming in 2025

Still 2025. A prototype is not a new vehicle available and also old news as correctly stated.

As you are 100% wrong, care to retract your completely wrong statement?

 

In #17 you are linking to, and quoting from, a report dated July 27, 2020, which gave a timeline with "limited production in 2025".

The original post in this thread is an article dated December 13, based on a Nikkei Asia report dated December 10, which says "Toyota plans to be the first company to sell an electric vehicle equipped with a solid-state battery in the early 2020s".

Granted, "early 2020s" is not very precise, but it's a stretch to say it means the same thing as "in 2025", and also to miss the change from "limited production" to "to sell". It's even more of a stretch when the article explicitly says "The timetable discussed in the report is accelerated" from the one given in the older July report that you keep quoting from. How does your quoting from the older, superseded report back up your claim that the newer report is old news?

 

No, he's right. They pushed up the production of batteries for car prototypes and test mules from 2025 to next year.

Though the push up might have more to do with the advancement of others than with Toyota feeling they are ready. Solid Power, who is working with Ford, Hyundai, and BMW, started their production in the second quarter of this year, and their technology allows making the solid state batteries on the same equipment as Li-ion ones. Ford is saying testing in cars by early 2022.
Ford's Battery Bet Solid Power Says Automotive Testing Will Start in 2022 - Bloomberg

So it looks like Toyota is reacting to outside pressures. They likely have enough lab made cells for the prototype they planned for the Olympics, but their serious field testing likely won't start until 2022 or 2023 at this point.

Toyota was probably taking deployment slow, for whatever reason, and I'm thinking the actual battery development wasn't rushed itself.

Your current bit on fires is amusing.
Do you know what is actually burning in a battery fire? What causes those occasional explosions?

Hydrogen

When a battery is shorted or undergoes thermal runaway, the water and other compounds in the electrolyte start breaking down. One of the compounds of that breakdown is hydrogen. that gets released as a gas, and because it is very flammable, can ignite from the heat alone.

So all those Tesla fires you are harping on started as hydrogen fires.