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Project Lithium's "Signal Soother" is Ill-Conceived and DANGEROUS!

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by mudder, Jun 15, 2024.

  1. mudder

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    Moderators: Per @AzusaPrius' request, please move all posts including and after #67 in this thread into this thread. I know this is a big ask, due to the number of comments. However, I want to respect @AzusaPrius' wishes by not hijacking his thread.
     
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    if a comment from the peanut gallery may be entertained:

    I am not sure I usually think of threads on PriusChat as having owners. They have topics, and they have their original posters, who are the bows from which the threads as living arrows are sent forth. I've sometimes made efforts to resist topic drift and keep a thread on something like its original topic, but I don't usually think of one as "mudder's thread" or "Azusa's thread". As long as a thread has an ongoing discussion that's on-topic, it seems cool to me.

    Which I guess is to say I'm lukewarm on this proposed split. I won't feel bad if it happens, but I also wouldn't feel bad if the original thread stayed intact. Its topic was testing the Soother product, and mudder's contributions have certainly been on that topic. If split into two threads, there should certainly be prominent posts linking the two together, so a reader who finds one won't miss the relevant information in the other.
     
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    I’ve been on forums where the o/p has total control of the thread.
    It’s an interesting concept
     
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    I agree completely, which is why I initially posted in "Azusa's" existing thread. My creating this thread is only at Azusa's request. I'm onboard if moderators and/or community standards decide to keep everything in the existing thread.

    I agree.
     
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    Can’t wait to see the pouncing continue on this thread. Let me make some pop corn and bring a big bowl for us.
     
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    I agree with @ChapmanF and think it makes more cohesive to have it back on the original post/thread.
     
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    Looks like PriusChat doesn't allow me to edit posts after a certain time period. Therefore, I cannot edit my first post in this thread. Instead, I will post an addendum to that post next:

    Moderators: Per the above community feedback, I no longer wish for my posts in the linked thread to be moved here. It appears the community agrees my posts in that thread are on-topic and relevant to OP's original post. No action is requested at this time.

    However, I do want to keep this thread open, so that I can continue discussing Signal Soother concepts that may actually be off-topic in OP's thread.
     
  8. AzusaPrius

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    Lol they were never going to grant your wish anyway.

    Best option is to have forum etiquette and not hijack another persons thread, even if you think you are staying on topic per se.

    Keep organized and keep your input in your threads and see how people respond in them.

    Like linking your channels in your threads and linking back to your threads.
     
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    Correction: This entire thread was your wish. Read through 'your' thread if you need a reminder of what you wrote that spurred this thread.

    Based on the replies here - and also the moderator's opting not to split the thread - I would counter that I didn't hijack 'your' thread.

    I'll respond wherever I deem appropriate. This is a public forum.

    What are you talking about?
     
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    Nevermind mudder you obviously have issues that you do not know about.

    Keep up your agenda in trying to smear a persons company.

    You leave lots of evidence and proof of your slandering videos and libeling posts and threads.

    I highly doubt we will ever see a company spawn from your laboratory.
     
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    I, for one, am grateful to mudder for doing the work to report at least what the signal soother actually does, as no one else was stepping up to get that information to the community.
     
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    mudder's agenda:
    Keep the Toyota community safe
    ("I don't feel safe")

    Broken record time: 'Slander' would only apply if I knowingly made false statements.

    You obviously don't know anything about the previous startups that have emerged from my garage.
     
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    The assessment(s) mudder has done seems pretty straightforward and objective. Not a slander or smearing of a company. The result of repeatable test are facts regardless of our feeling about the results.

    From explaining the soother, and the risk to anyone working on it, it's been helpful info for me.

    As an independent hybrid/EV Tech I'm not "scared", but I certainly want to be informed.

    I also want to be able to be honest and knowledgeable about products that customers ask me about installing in their cars.

    I have always been impressed by the work Jack has done on his products. Not everyone is willing to put their money where there mouth is when it comes to creating a product.

    But, if there are issues with that product, I think the creator/manufacturer has an obligation to stop selling that product.

    As a small businesses owner I can't take a risk installing a product that I know has lit on fire in a customer car. At the very least I'd need an objective and thorough explanation of what lead to that fire.
     
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    Just make em sign waivers :eek:
     
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    Let's say something bad does happen, like a car in an attached garage starts a large fite.

    Waivers often don't prevent you from being taken to court.

    Waivers don't help you in the court of public opinion either.

    And ultimately there is still a chance someone might win a court case, regardless of the waiver.
     
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