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Prius v vs Prius plus

Discussion in 'Prius v Fuel Economy' started by karies, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. karies

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    Hello, first post!

    I just bought myself a 2014 Prius+ 7-seater. From what I understand it is basically the same car as the v except for the two extra seats in the trunk and the li-ion battery (placed under the consol between the front seats). And yeah, second row seats are three separate seats not 2+1 as in the v.

    However, official mileage between v/+ varies as well.
    EU official for the P+ is 4,2 3,8 4,1combined l/100km (56 62 57combined mpg)
    US numbers for the v is from what I read 42mpg combined (or was it 41!?)

    I realize theese numbers are different because of different testing standards (am I right?), but still..

    My car is well used, having 238000km on the clock (~148000 miles). When I drove it home it averaged 4,3 l/100km (54,7mpg). Now Im down to 4,7 l/100km (50mpg) having commuting with it for a week in cold weather. (mostly 80-100kmh/50-62mph but some city stop traffic as well). Thats not bad, right? I really did expect worse mileage (all numbers from trip computer, not at the pump since I havent filled her up yet). At the same time it seems reasonable comparing to official numbers for the P+.

    Question is, is there any REAL MPG difference between Pv and P+ other than different driving test cycles in EU/US? Is there more differencies between the cars than those mentioned above?

    Thanks!

    /J
     
    #1 karies, Jan 18, 2019
  2. Jarkko

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    Radio headunit is an other difference - at least European JBL-version does not have Entune. Also drl and fog lights might be different. These are trim level dependent anyways.

    American cars have bladder, and EU models have traditional fuel tank. This I am not absolute sure, but I remember reading it somewhere in this forum.

    Wheel size does have effect - I have Premium with 17" wheels form factory, so the official EU figure is 4,4 l/100km.

    Consumption should really the same. NiMh vs. Lithium affect consumption very little, mostly via different weight.There could be also differencies in ECU's, but this is harder to confirm.

    Test method makes the biggest difference..
     
    #2 Jarkko, Jan 19, 2019
  3. mikefocke

    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Testing methods differences. No way a v gets 57 MPG like some fastbacks do without annoying every other driver on the road and even then a special driver under ideal circumstances. There is an app/web-site called fuelly.com where folks enter their fuel fill ups and you can display in km/L or MPG or several other styles and see how common mileages are. Typical 5.3-5.9 L/100km or 38-45 MPG combined for 980+ samples.
     
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    American Prius v do not have a bladder. Only the Generation 2 US Prius had the bladder. My son has a 2015 Prius v.
     
    #4 Prodigyplace, Jan 19, 2019
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    Thank you for your input! I think I might have an fuelly account, havent used it though. I guess it will be more fun now with this car :)
     
    #5 karies, Jan 20, 2019
  6. Tideland Prius

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    That's really good fuel consumption considering it's winter. The best I got out of the NiMH Prius v was 4.7L/100km and that was in warm California weather.

    It's possible the Li-Ion battery plays a part (for your real life consumption) but the biggest difference is the testing method for the official numbers so the NEDC and EPA numbers cannot be compared. The WLTP should be closer in number to the EPA.
     
    #6 Tideland Prius, Jan 20, 2019
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