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Point me in the right direction on potential HV Battery issue

Discussion in 'Prius c Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by s.e.andrews71, Mar 9, 2022.

  1. s.e.andrews71

    s.e.andrews71 New Member

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    Ok, story time.

    I was visiting a friend of mine that is a multi Prius owner. His 2012 C was sitting in the driveway having obviously not been driven in a while. He claims he was sitting in a drive through when it died and the Check Hybrid System Warning message came on. He was able to let the car sit for a few minutes and it started up and he drove it home. So without and diagnosis of the light and fear it was the HV Battery, it just sat in the driveway. As the conversation went on, I asked what his plans were. He had no interest in putting any money into it and would like to just sell it as is. We worked out a deal and I actually ended up purchasing it for an insanely fair amount of money, knowing that it would make a great first car for my daughter, no matter if it needed a battery.

    Well since it had been sitting, the 12v battery had died and would not come back with a charge or a jump, so I replaced the battery. Now, my issue is this. After replacing the 12v, it cleared the codes before I could hook up my OBDII. So I figured I could trial and error get the light to come back by spending some time driving it and letting it sit. I've put over 3 hrs and 120 miles on it so far in a combo of sitting, in town driving, and highway driving...no Hybrid System Warning.

    All of that being said, where should I go from here? I purchased the vehicle in TX and I have to get it to my daughter in TN in a few weeks. So I have a 10hr/700mi drive to make. I just don't know if it is wise, without more diag to just throw a battery at it.

    Thank you all in advance.
     
  2. dig4dirt

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    Congrats on the purchase!

    That is a tough one.
    Without knowing the codes, it may have even been a fluke or his 12v was possibly on the way out.
    Low/dead 12v can cause serious complications on Gen3 prius, unfortunately not sure I heard it much on the "c"
    But never know.

    You could possibly invest in a Dr Prius app install and a Panlong obdii bluetooth device to run the tests
    and see battery health with voltage readings etc.

    panlong

    I paid I think $10 for Dr Prius few years ago, I think it may be around $12-$15

    This combo or Torque Pro, Hybrid Assistant or a few others may get comparable results on batt health.

    In my humble opinion I would do my best to prepare for the drive and learn as much as possible on the battery
    that is in it and then set up if there was a problem along the drive.
    That may be securing a BRAND new (not used/rebuilt/refurb) HV battery to tote along or even replace before leaving to your daughters.
    That way she should be all good to go when she receives.

    Good luck!
     
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    how many miles on her

    i would talk to houston hybrids

    hometown-hybrids-houston-2

    or texas hybrids for some timely advice.
    texas hybrids /
     
  4. s.e.andrews71

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    Thank you for the info and the well wishes!

    As far as the Bluetooth OBDII goes, is the Panlong needed for the Dr Prius app or will any Bluetooth OBDII work? Only reason I ask is that I have a Bluetooth OBDII, just not that brand.

    I’m so up in the air on buying a new battery. The cost is just insane compared to refurbs. Are there any companies out there that are recommended that do new cells or new batteries that aren’t factory? Or any refurb companies worth their weight? I’m more than mechanically inclined enough to repair/rebuild or replace one myself. Just looking to not hit the wallet as hard with a factory replacement.
     
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    Thank you for the info!

    It has just under 165k miles on it now.
     
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    I would not just replace the battery. A lot of other things can cause that light to come on. Water pump inverter pump come to mind.
     
  7. s.e.andrews71

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    That’s my hesitance.
     
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    NewPriusBatteries

    I do not see any c listed, but this company has a presence on the pc site here.
    I have not kept recent on them, but well reviews.

    Many do have good remarks on refurbs, but if you are a DIY'er then best to "wack a mole" yourself to save even more money.
    and save down time from refurb companies having to switch out with warranty replacements.
    The only reason I mentioned new is since the c will be not in your possession, so buy once, cry once.

    @PriusCamper is a master at rebuilding HV batts (along with some others) that can give more details on the DIY approach.
    Many, many, many threads here on testing and grid charging the individual modules.

    Hybrid battery diagnostic and repair tool for Toyota and Lexus click on the OBD2 to buy, and while it is a bit fumbled site, there are some others listed.
    I just mentioned panlong since that is the only I purchased and know it works.
    ( i just ran a health check on my c on monday and tested 71% "good" health)
     
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    Lol, master at rebuilding batteries on the cheap with only $1K in gear is not saying much when the true masters require $15 to $30K in lab grade gear. As in I'm just another cheapskate hack who may or may not lead you in a viable direction. If you really want results, use my affiliate link for advanced Lithium packs for Prius: https://projectlithium.com/?ref=9qLPw
     
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    If you want/ need reliability and the car isn't going to be nearby, then the best recommendation is to to replace the HV battery with new. OE, newpriusbatteries, or (DrPrius) lithium- your choice.

    Refurbished batteries are a crapshoot- might get 2 years- or 2 months. Getting any warranty repair done in another state could be a problem. DIY repairs will have similar concerns (but no warranty). Some here have had good results, others play "whack a mole" until they give up.

    Another option is to (try and) find a decent non hybrid like a Yaris, Civic, or Corolla. Generally have fewer potential concerns as they age vs a hybrid and more shops will work on them.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    This is simple.

    You already decided that the car would be good even if it needed a battery.

    Prius c batteries are generally pretty used up after 10 years, especially in warmer climates.

    I am assuming that it will be easier to change the battery when the car is near you, and you've said you intend for the car to mostly be away with your daughter.

    If I were in your shoes I'd be planning to replace the battery.... PLUS whatever is revealed by thorough troubleshooting of the currently stored codes. And no, I wouldn't order the battery or anything until that troubleshooting were complete, that's just letting yourself get too far ahead.

    Good luck!
     
  12. s.e.andrews71

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    Thank you all for your responses and suggestions. I am heading back to Texas this coming week to finish diagnosing and will be prepared with the Dr Prius App and scanner to try and get the heath of the battery nailed down before I replace anything.

    If the battery is deemed to need to be replaced, I will be going with the Project Lithium cells for sure, once they are available again that is.

    Sorry for the slow response. I travel A LOT for work and have been out of pocket for a couple of weeks.
     
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