PIP Battery Replacement Cost

i don't recall ever seeing a price here. haven't seen any battery problems or replacements either. i'm sure it was the 12 volt battery. what do you mean by huge variances in cycles?

 

Work orders are the epitome of terse. Very likely it was the 12 volt battery replaced. Was there a date on the replacement battery? And can you find out the car's build date (it's on decal in driver's door jamb)? If there's multiple months between those two dates, the 12 volt probably died due to sitting unused.

I'd be curious too, what it costs to replace a PIP battery.

 

A lot but who cares about it, all of them are under manufacturers warranty for at least 6 years.....

 

well, you can throw out the 1,000, because i've done more than that in 3+ years. i'm sure there is a very slow degradation after the first year, which seems fairly significant. no doubt toyota planned for 10 years of fairly decent performance. it will start to get very interesting when pips, leafs, volts start to need battery replacement.

 

that's also why leasing may be a better idea for ev's.

 

G9510-47091 all shown discontinued.

 

Where did you get this idea from? Regular Prius battery replacements probability are extremely low. I have not heard of any PiP battery replacements at all. Then again, the oldest PiP is only 3 years old. I'm at over 1500 charge cycles already.

If there were any battery degradation it's not big enough for me to notice. I assume the degradation happened to the top 15% SoC that Toyota does not allow us to use. Someone smarter than me can chime in. If I can never charge past 85% SoC, that means I won't notice degradation until capacity goes below 85%.

 

I have asked the same question, and I don't think we have any good number$.
Right now a regular Prius HV batt costs about $3500 parts + labor at a dealer.
But if you call Toyota USA and ask for out of warranty assistance, depending on the case, total cost ranges from <$500 to about $2000. So I don't think anyone is going to fork over $10000 without asking Toyota for assistance. Of course, under warranty it is free.

I am not aware of a single PiP battery failure, and not aware aware of a single PiP out of warranty for that matter. The subset of PiPs with a bad battery (~=none) and out of warranty (~=none) is vanishingly small. Although here in non-CARB Virginny we are starting to see some 80k miles PiPs for sale under $15K perhaps reflecting the economic uncertainty of batt failure.

 

On a related note, I was talking to this guy who has a RAV EV. Drove about 200k with it and finally had to replace the battery. He paid about $5k for it. This gives me hope in life expectancy and cost for a much smaller battery.

 

wow, that's pretty reasonable.

 

Are we talking about the new RAV4 EV with Tesla battery? Or the heritage RAV4EV? Hard to believe someone managed to get 200k on the new one.

 

The RAV4 EV Gen 1, with NiMH batteries have a number of people with impressive miles on the original pack. I believe those drivers also know it won't be cost effective to replace the packs.

 

I'm none too familiar with the Rav 4s, but it would be the one with that old body style, not those new shiny ones with the Tesla batteries. Then again, how could anyone rack up 200k on a new Rav4 EV so soon?

 

There are several used PiP batteries listed on Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market for $1200-$1500

 

not bad depending on mileage. surprised this hasn't come up before with a 3 1/2 year old model, but there may not be any buyers yet.

 

I'd be skeptical this was not really a 4 kwhr Li batt for a Toyota PiP, maybe a conversion plug-in

 

why, there must be plenty of totaled pips by now?