... people who buy EVs get suckered out of their money -

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  1. asjoseph

    asjoseph Samuel, '04 Ruthiemobile

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    bisco cookie crumbler

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    Maybe if you try English, we could answer.
    I bought a bolt, and love that you and other republican’s had to pay for part of it.
    Trunk never pays for anything, so good luck to Leon.
    I’m not scared of mine, but I’m probably misinterpreting your word salad
     
  3. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Elon Musk claims Tesla will double US production in next two years, let's do the math | Electrek

    Supply and demand.
    If there are more and more Teslas they're going to get cheaper and cheaper......

    I did a hard 'stare and compare' at the numbers in '23 when I bought my truck, and it was closer than I thought it might be.
    Personally?
    I'd LOVE to have one as a beater, and as I have been saying for 10 years now, sooner or later BEV's will reach financial viability and instead of paying people to drive them, dot.gov will start taxing them.

    I'll take the 2028 Tesla SE version in Red for $20,000, Alex.....
    (and keep two or three REAL cars for road trips.... ;) )
     
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    I'd like to suggest a new study, unless someone somewhere already has the data cataloged.


    Orbital Debris


    How much $ to clean it up?
    After it's cleaned up, will it slow the trending global temp rise?
    How much does it currently cost the US to keep track of it all?
    and finally, what's the estimate for terminal junk myspacebook.
     
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    There is only one EV up there :)

    All the other bits are compiled somewhere, down to size of a few cm but it is a very long list. Leolabs specializes in near misses, but their main aim is paying customers wanting to avoid conflicts for their money makers up there.

    US Space Command apparently wants to exit this activity.

    Tracking debris and space traffic a growing challenge for U.S. military - SpaceNews

    But one would (maybe) find their costs elsewhere.

    Re entries of larger bits are here:

    Reentries

    Cleanup costs have not yet been scoped, as no tech demonstration has been done yet.

    "After it's cleaned up, will it slow the trending global temp rise?" This seems a most peculiar question. Some recent work examines atmospheric heating expanding atmosphere and putting more drag on all things in lowest orbits, but that operates in the other direction. Or something.

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    Anyway we show explore this in a different thread. This one is for EV peeves.
     
  7. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Wow.
    That's a new one.
    The idea is that the atmosphere will become less dense as it warms up?

    There's some kind of funding generator in the AP that states:
    "The density at 250 miles (400 kilometers) above Earth is decreasing by about 2% a decade and is likely to get intensify as society pumps more greenhouse gas into the atmosphere, said Ingrid Cnossen, a space weather scientist at the British Antarctic Survey who was not part of the research."
    Climate change, already causing problems on Earth, could soon create a mess for orbiting satellites | AP News.
    Space Weather Scientist?
    Who knew?

    I actually had to 'white sheet' this post because I 'Bidened it up.'
    Radiational cooling.
    Less friction at LEO?

    ...a PROBLEM?

    How global warming could threaten satellites, according to new study - ABC News.

    All this is making my brain itch....so I will wait until this re-emerges in another forum.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I look forward to it.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    I don't think that one is going to be a problem.
    It's one of the few SpaceX birds that reach orbit without a dynamic deorbiting plan.
     
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