Featured Over 40% of Toyota and Lexus Vehicles Sold in Canada in 2023 are Electrified

"Electrified" I gather includes all the cars with engine propulsion plus battery assist. A little less dramatic, but a start.

 

It puts Toyota profoundly further ahead phasing out ICE over the "all in" legacy automakers.

 

Yet Canada is a puny market. China in comparison is huge, where Toyota was nearly kicked out because they wouldn't build electric cars. Fortunately China forced their hand & hopefully the rest will be history.
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That has nothing to do with "all in" legacy automakers.

 

Actually 100% of Toyota cars in Canada are “electrified”. The all require a 12V car battery to run.

As Toyota’s advertising in Europe about ‘self charging EVs’, this may be headed for the courts as well.

Blurry Lines Between Hybrids and EVs at Toyota Trigger FTC Complaint Alleging Misleading Marking - Public Citizen

 

It has to do with Legacy automaker Toyota being all in

 

almost all of Toyota's "electrified" offerings have ice's in them. How do you phase out the ice in a hybrid? Or worse, how can you say people want hydrogen cars more than BEVs when so few are sold comparitively.

I don't think ice cars should be phased out quickly, but we should be honest about toyota's point of view.

 

It actually covers basic mild hybrids with no assist in most discussions. As long as you sell some plug ins, a mild hybrid can be offered in China.

 

I get the feeling governments are making lofty promises/predictions, that we'll be "all electric", say by 2035 (or similar). And manufacturers are pushing terminology that muddies the water, lumps in any-and-all gassers with electric assist, hoping that'll approximate compliance?

Personally I'm very skeptical, don't think the goals and time limits are practical.

 

Yeah Plug-Ins are a very good bridge.

 

Transitions from one technology to another are not done instantly but when combined with greatly improved features and lower costs, the change happens very quickly. For example, I have a mental image of Rohingya refugees fleeing to Bangladesh and one carried a portable solar array to charge their cell phone.

I bought my first Prius to cut my cost per mile by nearly half. I bought my first PHEV to cut it by nearly half again but with a range extender since there was no practical charging network. Then my BEV to cut it by half again with AutoPilot/FSD and the SuperCharger network. Notice saving operating cost drove me to new technology.

When a government initiative leads to improved technology . . . GOOD! But mandates are less effective than pocket book economics.

Bob Wilson

 

I agree with the idea of phev being electric, but hybrids without a plug that just is about efficiency not moving to a different power source.

I am unsure of range requirements or efficiency requirements in the markets. I see canadian regulations offer partial credits for ranges as low as 35 km today, but it goes up to 50 km in 2027, not sure in later years. I would think partial for 35km and a certain power electric efficiency would be a better regulation.