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Oil Change Plug Gasket

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by SureValla, Nov 13, 2007.

  1. SureValla

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    Im going to be changing my oil next week so I went over to autozone tonight get supplies.

    I bought everything but the plug gasket. This doesnt come with the filter does it? I got a mobil 1 filter. I asked the guy there and he didnt know. Also told me the car might be too new. This didnt make sense to me but anyways the question is where do you guys buy your plug gaskets?
     
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    Are you talking about the oil drain bolt crush washer? If so, then no it doesn't come with an oil filter. Since it doesn't have anything to do with the oil filter, it wouldn't come with it. You can get them online or at a Toyota stealership. I have reused my crush washer 3 times so far. Just don't over tighten it and it will be fine.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rest @ Nov 13 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]539109[/snapback]</div>

    I am talking about the little washer thing that john shows next to the filter in his steps to change the oil.

    how much is this item too?
     
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    We got ours at a local auto store, about 3 for, um, $2, I think, or less.
    They do come in different sizes. Check the manual, or do what Dear Hubbs did, pull the oil plug, and while the car is draining, drive a different car to the local auto store, and ask for crush washers to fit THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. :)
     
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    A crush washer should only cost around 25 cents each.
     
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    Last time I bought oil filters at the dealer (3 at a time), they threw one of those In for free!

    It's really not necessary to replace the crush washer everytime.

    I changed oil in my previous 300ZX for 13 years and 320,000 miles, and changed that washer once.

    JMHO
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9G-man @ Nov 14 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]539323[/snapback]</div>

    I guess I dont see the point in not replacing it if its only 25 cents, why dont you?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SureValla @ Nov 14 2007, 06:26 AM) [snapback]539355[/snapback]</div>
    The OEM washer from a stealership is substantially more ($1.50/ea). That's why many people re-use them a few times before installing a new one.

    I might be concerned about the precise 'crushability' of a non-OEM washer. It's quite possible that an auto parts store is providing a hard, regular metal washer that isn't designed to compress as readily as the soft aluminum of the OEM drain plug 'gasket'. A cheap, hard, non-crush, metal washer would most likely result in a leaking drain plug.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rudiger @ Nov 14 2007, 04:35 AM) [snapback]539361[/snapback]</div>
    Regular metal? As long as the washer is aluminum, which is metal, it will be fine.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SureValla @ Nov 14 2007, 08:26 AM) [snapback]539355[/snapback]</div>
    I suggested the best place to get one, and the fact you can talk 'em out of one for free.
    Thank me for that later. My humble opinions are rhetorical.

    But, if you really want to know..... for the very reason you are having to inquire about it online...Finding one in the right size is not difficult, but not readily effortless either. And because in my experience only once was there a need to, and I'm wlling to bet I've changed the the oil in my cars 200 times.

    JMHO.

    It's like a valve stem cap, or gas-cap gasket, and cotter-pins, they are all dirt-cheap and should be replaced over time, but most often who really does it?
     
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    I don't know what washer you guys are getting. The ones the dealer sold me were not "crush washers", they are phenolic washers, and don't "crush". The parts guy gave them to me free after he had already totaled my oil filter order ("too expensive to create another bill"). You only need to have a replacement if you break or loose the original. I keep one spare in the car "just in case". I used the original on the anti-Prius for seven years (14 oil changes) with no problems. When I changed Pearl's oil a few months ago I reused the original washer. It doesn't leak.

    "Crush washers" can be hollow metal, such as you get on spark plugs, solid aluminum (soft), or solid copper (soft). The two solid types tend to work harden, but if you want you can reuse/recycle them when they get too hard. First soften them by heating them up with a torch and quenching them in water. Personally, I've never had them leak when they get hard even, so have never bothered to "anneal" them.
     
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    Whether I buy filters for my Prius or my FJ, the dealership throws in the drain plug washer. I have a couple of old ones around just in case
     
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    I guess this would be another advantage to the quick drain valve. You don't have to worry about the washers. :)
     
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    I just changed my Prius oil yesterday using filter and washer from the dealer, so I can speak on this with authority. The Toyota washer is aluminum and is blue on both surfaces. It does indeed distort a bit after one use, but I'm sure it could be used twice by flipping it over. That said, why? It is $1.50 from my dealer, but that really doesn't amount to much in a year...

    Doug

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