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New Tires Mystery

Discussion in 'Prius v Fuel Economy' started by Krsna, Mar 8, 2023.

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  1. Krsna

    Krsna New Member

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    After reading so many threads on tires and fuel economy and nothing really seeming scientific or conclusive, i decided against LRR and instead to get the tires in my budget that had the performance I was looking for. Since inflation, tires have seemed to have gone up 50% where I am in California, so even a set of budget tires cost me $560 total. Because I could not find adequate information and most tire threads are full of anecdotes, I just decided to roll the dice and go with Kinergy ST H735, tires that no one really recommended for the Prius.

    Before I was getting about 40.5 mpg at 40psi. 42mpg if I drove conservatively, but the way I normally drive it averaged 40.5. I got the new tires and waited about 1500 miles of break in to start clocking the mpg and tested the psi for a few hundred miles, all driven the same.

    At the standard 36 psi I was getting a slightly disappointing, but expected 38 mpg. Lots of people said to expect a drop off if you didn't get LRR's so I was actually ok with this drop.

    Here's the weird part: I decided to bump the psi to 40 and the mpg went DOWN to 36mpg. I have no idea why this happened. The ride comfort was terrible too.

    Then I tried 38psi and it went up back to 40.5mpg.

    Anyways this is just another anecdote, but I figured I'd give my experience with the Kinergy ST H735, which I'm now very happy that I got no drop-off in mpg.

    36psi = 38mpg
    38psi = 40.5 mpg
    40psi = 36 mpg ????

    Thoughts? I can't explain the significant drop with higher tire pressure.
     
    #1 Krsna, Mar 8, 2023
  2. Kenny94945

    Kenny94945 Active Member

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    Well, I'll speculate.
    1) The tire traction ratings may differ....even though brand-to-brand ratings are valid, changing brands brings a variable.
    If your original tires were rated 400, and the new tires at 200, well that could be. Typically, a lower rating causes decreased mileage.
    2) Alignment has changed over time and you are dragging your front toe. Typically, a cause of decreased mileage.
    3) Maybe it is tune-up time? Engine air filter. Typically, a cause of decreased mileage.
    4) Seasonal gasoline formula changes. Typically, a cause of decreased mileage.

    5) Tire pressure.
    Well bumping up the pressure usually increase miles per gallon, but increases wear on the center of the tire.
    So maybe, I am guessing, the higher pressure is increasing traction, noting # 1 above.
    Or the higher pressure is increasing the tire temperature over its performance operating range.
    Do note, with a tire brand change, a pyrometer is your friend.
    FWIW you can ballpark pressure by looking for a 10% rise in pressure from cold to hot.
    Looks like you found 38 psi as ideal.

    So anyway, all guess and no answer.
    My vote would be toward traction ratings and/or tire temps.

    Good hunting :)
     
    #2 Kenny94945, Mar 11, 2023
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