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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by scramasax, Dec 14, 2010.

  1. scramasax

    scramasax Junior Member

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    I have a prius since about 3 weeks. I keep it in a garage and this morning there was a snowstorm and the temperature was around -10 Celcius. I have new Michelin X-ice winter tire installed

    The traffic was slow I was not going around 17km/h to 22km/h so i was barely touching the gas pedal and with the eco mode activated. The fuel display was going to the roof peaking at the 10 l/100km which is the maximum of the display. The hybrid indicator was very low alternating between charging and shoing a little but always staying very low in the eco zone.

    I was going just too fast to switch completly on electric and I was not succeeding to let the gas motor stop. I did not have the defreezer working because my car was in the garage so It was hot enough inside.

    I would like to know if this is a glitch of the gauge or if my motor was really burning gas for nothing? Could I have change my way of driving if this was the real gas display
     
  2. spiderman

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    Your state of charge (SOC) could have been very low and the ICE was charging. Either that or your A/C temp was high and the ICE was trying to maintain the cab temp.

    Welcome aboard by the way!
     
  3. macman408

    macman408 Electron Guidance Counselor

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    Also possible that the engine wasn't warm yet, depending on how far you had driven. It has to get to 70°C before it's fully warmed up, which can take quite a while in city driving, and even longer when it's cold. The engine will turn off when it's good and ready - and probably much faster in the summer than it does now.
     
  4. E Street Shuffle

    E Street Shuffle Pa-Pa-Pa-Prius

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    If you have the heater running and it's cold outside, it is much harder to run on EV. I see a noticeable difference with the heater turned off in the cold weather. The ICE will run to keep itself above a certain tempo. If you are pulling heat out of the engine with the heater, it cools off faster than it would otherwise, thus causing the engine to run more often. You can turn off the heat, but you may freeze your a$$ off - you just have to decide how hard core you are :D

    I have unfortunately had the opportunity to observe this first hand in the unusual cold weather we've had in the south. Brrrr... :)
     
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    You don't mention the outside temp. but my experience is with the heater calling for heat, the engine (not motor, the motor is the electric thingy) will not shut down until the coolant gets above 63C. That takes 20-30 min. with full grill blocking when it's -10C outside. Even then, in traffic, it's hard to maintain engine temp. above that. So the engine will run to try to warm up so it can provide cabin heat. As my friend says, Pearl has a "gas heater".

    You can easily test this. Turn off A/C auto and/or turn off the cabin heater. The engine should stop almost immediately if you are stopped, the coolant is above about 45C, and it has been about 1 min. since you last turned the car on (put it in "ready").
     
  7. scramasax

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    I drove on the same road than normally when I am going to work so I am used to see the gas motor work. What really surprised me was the fact that the gas spent was higher at 20km/h than at 100mk /h. Normally the engine is getting hotter at low speed because there is less air.

    the heater was on automatic at 18 degree celcius which is the minimum I can push on the button. this was not different than normal
     
  8. xs650

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    As long as you are running off the gasoline engine, the efficiency at 12 mph is atrocious. It's not surprising that you were able to get better fuel economy at 60 mph. I wide variety of cars get optimum steady speed fuel economy at some speed between 30mph and 50 mph. Efficiency is off the curve low at 12 mph.
     
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    The ICE has a mind of its own- its frustrating to be coasting downhill at 30 mph with the heat and ac off and a full battery, a warm engine, then have the stupid thing come on and burn 5-10 hp worth of gas for nothing. Happens to me all the time. All you can do is pull over and stop then it will shut off and behave normally for a while, as you continue to coast
     
  10. bisco

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    +1! every nite i take the same route to work. i get off the highway and my battery is full green. it's 70 degrees outside ( a few months ago!) and no heat or a/c or even fan. no lites, no radio, nothing running but the car. i cut through the back of a mall and it's 20 mph max. no matter how gently i apply the gas, the engine keeps coming on. other times, with none of the above and the battery half blue, i can push pretty hard on the gas and get decent acceleration over a pretty good distance. 'the engine has a mind of it's own' should be our mantra!:)