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Discussion in 'Prime Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by John6012, Aug 23, 2024.

  1. John6012

    John6012 Member

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    I took my 2018 Gen 4 Prius Prime Advance to the dealer today for an oil change and tire rotation and they said it is due for a transmission fluid change, fuel injector cleaning and a/c evaporator cleaning. I took the oil change and tire rotation and told them I'd forego the three "add-ons" they offered.
    I told them that the transmission fluid was good "for life" and they said it is their recommendation that I have the fluid changed more frequently. I have 44,000 miles on the car now and they want $259.00 to change the trans fluid which is quite excessive in my opinion.
    I have changed the transmission fluid in a Honda Accord so it's within my capability even at eighty years old to do it again.
    So after all that, I don't have any car stands to "make the Prius level" so if I drain out 3.8 quarts of trans fluid and the car isn't level and I put 3.8 pts back in, what is the issue with the car being level?
     
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    FYI: If the front end is higher than the rear, you won't be able to get all 3.8 quarts back into the car. The fill plug is next to the half-shaft towards the firewall. So any excess ATF would simply drain out, until you can get the fill plug back into it.
    Now if your slightly nose down, you should be able to get all 3.8 quarts into it, because the fill port is slight higher than it should be - if the car was level.
    I've got a good slope in my driveway and the car is pretty much level when the front tires is on rhino ramps. I think it was slightly nose down, since I was able to get about a cup more into it than I drained out. No issues after about 30K miles ago.

    Hope this helps....

    PS, Those plugs are pretty tight when you first crack them - use a breaker bar and don't strip them...
     
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  3. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

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    2016 Prius transmission fluid change | PriusChat

    For the "car should be level" factor, Toyota never mentions that, but they spec that the fluid level should be at most level with with lip of the fill hole, and as much as 8mm lower. The presumption is that they're not talking to DIY'rs using ramps or floor jack; they're assuming the car was raised with a lift. So you want to achieve level, one way or another.

    Then when you fill, getting the level right is by simply filling till it starts coming back out.

    My pref is to raise the front with a floor jack, settle onto safety stands, then repeat at the rear. Roughly level is all you're aiming for. Safety stands are cheap, and virtually necessity for safely working under the car. An alternative could be to run the front up on ramps, then jack up the rear, and leave the jack in place. That's sketchy though, I would raise the rear and settled onto a pair of safety stands. Also, whenever practical I'll push a large wooden block (tree trunk section) under, before I get under. :)

    See also the transaxle fluid change link in my signature; it's gen 3 specific, but mostly applicable. (on a phone turn it landscape to see signatures)
     
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    at 44k, i wouldn't bother