Morning with Toyota Technical

Any word on the time it takes to change the pedal? How about the floor mat?

 

Facetious?

20 sec to install the shim into the CTS pedal. Taking the pedal off the firewall and reinstalling it are the most time consuming efforts. ( Recall #2 )

'Reshaping' the pedal and removing padding under the pedal does take a little time. ( Recall #1 )

Floormats? Zero? Recall for idiots. ( Recall #1 )

I understand that the brake override retro-flashing takes upwards of two hours. ( No recall, Customer Service Campaign )

Since my 2005 works perfectly I'm not letting anyone touch anything. I'll sign the waiver too.

 

I guess it depends on the definition of a "core customer." I'm sure the Toyota Worshipers will not be phased by any of this (as shown by the polarizing responses here on the board).

The following poll may or may not be of much use, but:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35333134/site/14081545/for/cnbc/

Kelley Blue Book survey finds Toyota woes driving away would-be buyers

A survey by the Kelley Blue Book says Toyota's massive safety recalls is eroding consumer interest in its models and continuing to drive down resale prices of used Toyota vehicles. The survey found that 27 percent of potential U.S. car buyers who were considering a Toyota prior to the recall are no longer looking to buy a Toyota. Similar sized declines were seen for Toyota's Scion and Lexus brands. Of those that defected from Toyota, the Blue Book study found that 49 percent said they are not sure they will consider buying from the automaker again. The Blue Book estimates that the resale value of cars affected by the Toyota recall will fall an additional 1.5 percent. That is on top if a 1 percent to 3 percent decline Blue Book analysts forecast last week.

 

As a happy toyota customer, I win! I only own 1 toyota at the moment, but expect to buy more than that in the future. Any decline in value of toyota cars thus more than offsets this 'loss' which I think will be temporary anyway.

 

Forest and trees.

Toyota's overriding strength is that it looks into the distance better than any of the others. Yes there is going to be a reaction from the buying public in these coming months. How could there not be one given all the publicity and hype.

Two years from now, five yrs from now, ten years from now? This dustup will be long forgotten. Hell, Ford is the current media darling and its Exploders were killing people all over the continent in the late 90s and early part of last decade. That situation was far worse than this angry beehive. All is forgiven with Ford now. Life moves on.

 

Three caveats to your post:

1. Toyota is number one and Ford was not. It is always easier to attack the front-runner.

2. Ford is a 'home team' and Toyota is not. So far the reaction from the home office in toyota city has been less than spectacular.

3. The possibillity exists for a smoking gun to be found via an errant email or memo. If this pops out, all bets are off.

The toyota dealers I know are the most frightened of the fact Toyota in Japan still does not understand the seriousness of this and #3, the existence of a smoking gun or worse yet, several smoking guns.

 

Thanks for all the good info. I have a small issue with the above statement. The customers are/were not the problem. A factor in the problem sure but not the problem. Its time to stop evading and to step up. Toyota is upgrading the cars software not the customers.

 

Name 3 and we'll ask them if this is actually so.

 

i only know 2 very well. You need evidence, Mr. Toyoda cancelled his trip to the US so he does not have to take any heat.

 

yeah, you Chevy dealers understand seriousness of smoking guns a lot better than Toyota ones, eh? haha.

 

That's not evidence. That's simply a guess on your part.

 

Does the re-flash set the car back to default? IOW, are custom settings such as the one tone for backup reset to continuous?

 

Looks like I can add "Core 4" to my signature tag.

 

You've been harping about this since the beginning. Time to put up or shut up.

 

No. Only the ABS ECU is reflashed.

Tom

 

That is another definition of safety deaf (the evading part)....