Iran Capable of Making a Nuclear Bomb within 16 days

Another report I read in the news stated that it would take Iran months to be capable of making nuclear weapon

let's not be an "Attention Deficit Democracy" and recall the exaggerations and lies we were told to support the Iraq war - WMD's ARE IMMINENT - GRAVE DANGER, LINKS TO AL QAYDA, etc

I don't mean to say blow off any threat, but this smells similar to the Iraq scheme

fear is a powerful tool if used properly

 

I'm not sure about this one... I've been reading that various think tank groups estimate they are far more than two weeks away in this respect... I forgot whether it was in months or years, but surely not days....

 

We need to go into Iran NOW. Unfortunately we went into Iraq instead, and now are stuck there, and have no troops for an Iran invasion. The president of Iran is one of the former hostage takers and a terrorist. We would be prepared to go in if it weren't for the mess in Iraq.

Hell, maybe Saddam would have helped us invade Iran. He hates them more than anything.

Nate

 

OK. How do you reconcile the original post with this story in the NY Times saying that it'll be years before Iran could be "nucular" (to quote our fine President).

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(malorn @ Apr 13 2006, 12:14 PM) [snapback]239138[/snapback]</div>

As the proud owner of a Prius, I can not wait for Iran to declare it has a nuke. Imagine what the price of oil will be 1 minute after they go public with that one - $100/barrel easy. Gas would go to $4.50/gallon and then no where but up thereafter.

Then when they threaten to shut the straits by exploding the bomb in a humanitarian effort to save lives and just attack the West economically - $200/barrel no problem.

With a little luck Russia and France and Germany send them a few more centrifuges to speed up the timetable.

David

 

Oil's grip on politics is immense... The closer we are to the end of the oil age the better things will become, as long as renewables can be adopted.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Betelgeuse @ Apr 13 2006, 10:36 AM) [snapback]239207[/snapback]</div>

Well, it may be years before Iran has a nuclear weapon, but if they have the technology to make weapons grade Uranium, that is all they really need in order to supply terrorists with a dirty bomb. On the other hand, I am sure that Iran would like to get rid of Israel...

 

Then again, to be fair and balanced, I don't think anyone knows for sure... Who's to say they haven't had a successful clandestine operation going all along....

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Apr 13 2006, 12:41 PM) [snapback]239211[/snapback]</div>

Are you seriously so dense as to think that the price of oil only affects the price of gas?

Do you have any clue at all what $200/bbl would do to the world economy? Can you be so cruel as to hope for that?

THINK, then post. You own a Prius, not a Pious.

 

Don't take others' responses to your post to heart... it's very easy to become frustrated about the whole oil situation and global warming. The sooner oil prices surge, the more likely people will change their ways more quickly... no one can deny that part. I know you never meant to take pride in people getting (economically and whatnot...) hurt by such a situation, but it is still true that people aren't likely to change their ways until there is pain in regards to oil prices and our addiction to it.

But even President Bush, who admitted being an oil man (as a kind of joke in his speech)... is pushing the way for Plug-ins and AFV's.

 

From a US State Department Official. <_< Just like Iraq had WMD, right! :lol: Seems like the administration is at it again. :angry:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brasche @ Apr 13 2006, 10:01 PM) [snapback]239587[/snapback]</div>

Thats the point I was going to make..... there are so many people claiming it was an error to go to Iraq that those same fingers would point and say that going to Iran is a equal or greater mistake.

That crowd is the crowd that will not deal with problems until they are manifest and then you have to wipe up the mess and aftermath.
Dealing with a nuke is no joke.

Many will forever refuse to admit there is a danger until the danger hits.. they cannot and will not see in advance and act proactively for fear paralyses them.

I estimate that we are in very very close communication with Israel as well as other key countries in those areas and if Iran even hints about taking out Israel again, Israel should protect themselves with a first strike.

Unfortunately, waiting till someone lobes a nuke your way when they are only a short distance away, gives you little time to shoot it out of the sky and take evasive action.
A first-strike is almost their only defense for a nuke threat.

How does a terrorist gain respect and work in harmony with the world when they have a nuke?

Do we "let" gangsters and outlaws have guns legally?

Then why do we let terrorists have nukes legally?

 

It's isn't Iran we should be worried about. (and I heard it will take them until the next decade, at least after 2010.)

It's North Korea. While our attention is being misdirected to the MidEast...North Korea will have a bomb a lot sooner than Iran. Just because they don't have oil doesn't mean they aren't as much of a threat.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(malorn @ Apr 13 2006, 06:14 PM) [snapback]239138[/snapback]</div>

Can the world live with a nuclear US?? And could the US please deal with the mess they have created in Iraq before "moving to the next country in line"

 

Why should we always be the one to "to something?"

It's our country's meddling that gets us into these problems in the first place!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(windstrings @ Apr 14 2006, 01:43 AM) [snapback]239601[/snapback]</div>

How do you destroy the most powerful economic nation in the world? Economically of course. While we're spending our resources on guns, the rest of the world is making butter. 10 years from now, Asia will be laughing at the US for being so easilly distracted and pre-occupied. Forget nukes, they're already using the most powerful weapon, ourselves. We ARE the kings of Spain.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Godiva @ Apr 13 2006, 11:19 PM) [snapback]239609[/snapback]</div>

I know we here on the forum are real energy minded, but I don't think oil is the big picture about war, its personality, character, and trust. Those are things our security is based on... not whether someone has oil or not. We are not pirates that go seeking ships with oil to steal. Iraq still has thier oil even!.... which I personally think they should fund the war with, since we used our own blood to save them so they would have a fighting chance to be free.

But nevertheless, some countrys have nukes and it doesn't bother us because of trust and they have a good track record with the world.

North Korea is a worthy foe, but they have principles and character, whether we agree with them or not, but they are fairly predictable because we feel we "know" them therefore our security with them can be measured.

They are not our favorite to get nukes, but they are far less likely to go around taking advantage of surrounding countries as may Iran.

I can believe NorthKorea would use thiers only as a "defensive" weapon far far more than Iran.


It's kinda like having two sons the same age... one you would give your car keys to your new car, the other you wouldn't.

How "responsible" a nation is makes a big difference and how well they can the protect and keep thier nuke from others stealing it and or sharing it is another consideration.


Will they sell it or use it to fund terrorism is another? What about suitcase nukes to teach someone a lesson?.... I wouldn't put that past Iran!.... the suitcase goes off far away from thier own country and doesn't affect the whole world but strikes terror.

Make enough for several bombs, then do a suitcase nuke and threaten to use the rest on a real bomb and blackmail the world..... nice James Bond story.. but possibly true.

The world is a very scary place with nukes period.. you can't just let anyone have them.